Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-da06.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 944FA38000081; Wed, 5 Dec 2012 09:03:59 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1TgFZB-0006zy-QG for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Dec 2012 14:03:13 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1TgFZB-0006zp-B0 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Dec 2012 14:03:13 +0000 Received: from smtpout4.wanadoo.co.uk ([80.12.242.68] helo=smtpout.wanadoo.co.uk) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1TgFZ9-00020S-2b for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 05 Dec 2012 14:03:12 +0000 Received: from AGB ([2.26.17.65]) by mwinf5d52 with ME id Xq2n1k0051QDtGq03q2nMJ; Wed, 05 Dec 2012 15:02:50 +0100 Message-ID: <6B89177D0B854FC485C15DF040F90BD7@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: ,<50BE7998.9090604@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> ,<50BE8324.3030004@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <50BF2E36.90306@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> In-Reply-To: <50BF2E36.90306@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Wed, 5 Dec 2012 14:02:46 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8117.416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8117.416 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Not to mention decodes into China as well using wspr OP8 is a creditable mode for long haul Dx on 500 , on the previous tests Gus , used 12 watts carrier feed to the Ae and achieved considerable coverage EU/ Greece and Moscow . [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [80.12.242.68 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: 40cd937fc1c5e6338b07d288cd09d087 Subject: Re: LF: Transpolar Long carrier test 137.7800 WE2XPQ tonight Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0044_01CDD2F1.34356C00" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d404e50bf544f7936 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0044_01CDD2F1.34356C00 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Not to mention decodes into China as well using wspr=20 OP8 is a creditable mode for long haul Dx on 500 , on the = previous tests Gus , used 12 watts carrier feed to the Ae and = achieved considerable coverage EU/ Greece and Moscow . Qrss is proven to be ineffective on 500 due to the short and rapid = qsb , only partial TA decodes where ever observed , where as = wspr , with a minimal of sync points and OP2 and OP4 modes = have all produced reliable decodes , I think also wolf has been = used .=20 after 1/1/2013 , things should be made simpler ! 73 -G. From: Stefan Sch=E4fer=20 Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 11:21 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: Transpolar Long carrier test 137.7800 WE2XPQ tonight Hi Laurence, Am 05.12.2012 01:01, schrieb Laurence KL1 X:=20 Stefan - thanks =20 Ive only had one instance of an Eu station SM6BHZ "making it" to = Alaska on 600m, if I recall< and that was on WSPR so dooable at the = reasonable QRSS/DFCW speeds fer shur, thats on a rare day of course but = Ive improved the Rx s/n since then by a dB or so which all helps.=20 That's interesting, i didn't know that. So, if SM6BHZ decodes in AK in = WSPR, then it could be possible to receive my WSPR or QRSS-3 or QRSS-10 = as well?!? Do we want to start some tests? As a possible QRG, far away from the CW = region in the band, it thought about 476.172 kHz ;-) Just an offset of = 340 kHz to LF for me ;-) What do you think? :-) 73, Stefan/DK7FC ------=_NextPart_000_0044_01CDD2F1.34356C00 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Not to  mention  decodes  into  China  as = well=20 using  wspr
 
OP8 is a  creditable  mode  for  long  = haul Dx on=20 500   , on the  previous  tests  Gus  = ,=20 used   12  watts  carrier  feed  to = the  Ae=20 and  achieved  considerable  coverage EU/ Greece and =  =20 Moscow .
 
Qrss is proven to  be ineffective  on 500  due to = the =20 short  and  rapid  qsb  ,  only  = partial  TA=20 decodes  where ever  observed  ,   where =20 as   wspr  , with  a minimal  of  = sync =20 points   and  OP2 and  OP4  modes  = have =20 all  produced reliable  decodes  ,  I think = also =20 wolf  has  been  used  .
 
after 1/1/2013 , things should be  made simpler !
 
73 -G.

From: Stefan = Sch=E4fer
Sent: Wednesday, December 05, 2012 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: LF: Transpolar Long carrier test 137.7800 = WE2XPQ=20 tonight

Hi Laurence,

Am 05.12.2012 01:01, schrieb Laurence = KL1 X:=20
Stefan - thanks
 
Ive only = had one instance=20 of an Eu station SM6BHZ "making it" to Alaska on 600m, if I = recall<=20  and that was on WSPR so dooable at the reasonable QRSS/DFCW = speeds fer=20 shur, thats on a rare day of course but Ive improved the Rx s/n = since=20 then by a dB or so which all helps.

That's=20 interesting, i didn't know that. So, if SM6BHZ decodes in AK in WSPR, = then it=20 could be possible to receive my WSPR or QRSS-3 or QRSS-10 as = well?!?

Do=20 we want to start some tests? As a possible QRG, far away from the CW = region in=20 the band, it thought about 476.172 kHz ;-) Just an offset of 340 kHz to = LF for=20 me ;-)

What do you think? :-)

73, = Stefan/DK7FC
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