Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-di03.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 1D3F3380000B3; Sat, 15 Dec 2012 20:11:58 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Tk2kh-0005CU-4K for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 01:10:47 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Tk2kg-0005CL-Me for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 01:10:46 +0000 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.100.212]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1Tk2ke-0006nx-Pz for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 01:10:45 +0000 Received: from freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de (freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.29.204]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id qBG1AN5c016367 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 02:10:23 +0100 Received: from [129.206.22.206] (pc206.iup.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.22.206]) by freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.11.20060308/8.11.2) with ESMTP id qBG1ANok004615 for ; Sun, 16 Dec 2012 02:10:23 +0100 Message-ID: <50CD1F7A.3040304@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Sun, 16 Dec 2012 02:10:18 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Stefan_Sch=E4fer?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <001f01cddb10$64a50b30$0501a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> In-Reply-To: <001f01cddb10$64a50b30$0501a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> X-Spam-Score: -0.7 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Mal, Am 15.12.2012 23:06, schrieb mal hamilton: > Gary > I see you only wind on half the ferrite core whereas I spread the > turns symetrically around the whole circumference. > In my case I need 8 turns on Prim es 24 on Sec. > I first wind the 24 turns around the circumference evenly then the 8 > tunrns on top also evenly. This works for me. > I wonder if there is any real difference in efficiency [...] Content analysis details: (-0.7 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [129.206.100.212 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: 4d97240a623a26620214cd27feaa9f71 Subject: Re: LF: Re: Re: M0BMU mods to the G0MRF PA Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------060507060300000502050709" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1da60750cd1fde34d1 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060507060300000502050709 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mal, Am 15.12.2012 23:06, schrieb mal hamilton: > Gary > I see you only wind on half the ferrite core whereas I spread the > turns symetrically around the whole circumference. > In my case I need 8 turns on Prim es 24 on Sec. > I first wind the 24 turns around the circumference evenly then the 8 > tunrns on top also evenly. This works for me. > I wonder if there is any real difference in efficiency Yes, using the whole circumference is better, especially when the core is driven close to saturation. Also the AL value from the datasheet for a certain core assumes a homogen spread of the turns. Warren, Yes, of course you can make taps on the secondary side. I'm doing this in my MF matchbox, using a 6 pole switch. This allows to rise the power in 3 dB steps... 73, Stefan/DK7FC --------------060507060300000502050709 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Mal,

Am 15.12.2012 23:06, schrieb mal hamilton:
Gary
I see you only wind on half the ferrite core whereas I spread the turns symetrically around the whole circumference.
In my case I need 8 turns on Prim es 24 on Sec.
I first wind the 24 turns around the circumference evenly then the 8 tunrns on top also evenly. This works for me.
I wonder if there is any real difference in efficiency

Yes, using the whole circumference is better, especially when the core is driven close to saturation. Also the AL value from the datasheet for a certain core assumes a homogen spread of the turns.


Warren,

Yes, of course you can make taps on the secondary side. I'm doing this in my MF matchbox, using a 6 pole switch. This allows to rise the power in 3 dB steps...

73, Stefan/DK7FC


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