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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi Marcin, Am 02.12.2012 21:42, schrieb Marcin: > > What we still need is a generator to feed the transmitter. Required > parameters are the following: > > * 8,970kHz frequency > * regulating range +-0.05Hz > * adjusting duty cycle of 5 to 45%, at 5% for two signals at the > same time > * two signals shifted by 180 degrees > > A friend of mine has promised to build it but it's been over a year > now and nothing has happened. > Is there a software which would use a soundcard with the > aforementioned parameters? [...] Content analysis details: (-2.3 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -2.3 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, medium trust [129.206.210.211 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: 85c54099682e8e65d9e25bf804a68673 Subject: Re: LF: Problem with generator to VLF transmitter Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------000504040109080508010805" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1db40a50bbcd8f61d0 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------000504040109080508010805 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-2; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hi Marcin, Am 02.12.2012 21:42, schrieb Marcin: > > What we still need is a generator to feed the transmitter. Required > parameters are the following: > > * 8,970kHz frequency > * regulating range +-0.05Hz > * adjusting duty cycle of 5 to 45%, at 5% for two signals at the > same time > * two signals shifted by 180 degrees > > A friend of mine has promised to build it but it's been over a year > now and nothing has happened. > Is there a software which would use a soundcard with the > aforementioned parameters? You can generate the 8.97 kHz signal in SpecLab and use a reference signal to compensate the soundcard drift. See the circuit of my first PA to see how the drive stage is made: http://www.iup.uni-heidelberg.de/schaefer_vlf/12V_300W_VLF_PA.pdf This is easily done and you have most of the circuit already working. For what do you need to vary the duty cicle from 5...45% ? Is this to adjust the TX power? Or do you want a quasi-linear mode PA? For normal power adjustments i suggest to use simple taps on the secondary winding of the PA output transformer. An alternative may be DF6NM's outphasing program which he will describe for you :-) 73 and please keep us informed about the progress. There is some growing interest in the 33km band again, also here in DL :-) 73, GL, Stefan/DK7FC PS: That was a short answer, sri. --------------000504040109080508010805 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-2 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de id qB2LpTJg016232 Hi Marcin,

Am 02.12.2012 21:42, schrieb Marcin:

What we still need is a generator to feed the transmitter. Required parameters are the following:
  • 8,970kHz frequency
  • regulating range=A0+-0.05Hz
  • adjusting duty cycle of 5 to 45%, at 5% for two signals at the same time
  • two signals shifted by 180 degree= s
A friend of mine has promised to build it but it’s been over= a year now and nothing has happened.
Is there a software which would use a soundcard with the aforementioned parameters?

You can generate the 8.97 kHz signal in SpecLab and use a reference signal to compensate the soundcard drift. See the circuit of my first PA to see how the drive stage is made: http://www.iup.uni-heidelberg.de/sch= aefer_vlf/12V_300W_VLF_PA.pdf
This is easily done and you have most of the circuit already working.
For what do you need to vary the duty cicle from 5...45% ? Is this to adjust the TX power? Or do you want a quasi-linear mode PA? For normal power adjustments i suggest to use simple taps on the secondary winding of the PA output transformer.

An alternative may be DF6NM's outphasing program which he will describe for you :-)

73 and please keep us informed about the progress. There is some growing interest in the 33km band again, also here in DL :-)

73, GL, Stefan/DK7FC

PS: That was a short answer, sri.
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