Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-md06.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 3B0F138000089; Sun, 23 Dec 2012 07:51:35 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1Tml0j-00047H-EA for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Dec 2012 12:50:33 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1Tml0i-000478-Sa for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Dec 2012 12:50:32 +0000 Received: from mout.gmx.net ([212.227.15.18]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1Tml0g-0004ZM-Os for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Dec 2012 12:50:31 +0000 Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net ([10.1.76.34]) by mrigmx.server.lan (mrigmx001) with ESMTP (Nemesis) id 0LtC7R-1T6R462hQ3-012lQ2 for =?utf-8?q?;?= Sun, 23 Dec 2012 13:50:09 +0100 Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 23 Dec 2012 12:50:08 -0000 Received: from p4FDD6DF8.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO Clemens0811) [79.221.109.248] by mail.gmx.net (mp034) with SMTP; 23 Dec 2012 13:50:08 +0100 X-Authenticated: #17214767 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1+NW+MO372Nt5IKDoFtyMlINu5naxch64mMDY5GFy vQlGlKjjFWr19l From: "Clemens Paul" To: References: <1D00CE16DCF340D7BE56065B76EF1A5F@AGB> <50D65418.2040808@freenet.de> In-Reply-To: Date: Sun, 23 Dec 2012 13:50:06 +0100 Message-ID: <3B6D9AA7C61C4BF786E7F2878451B0AD@Clemens0811> MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 11 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V6.1.7601.17609 Thread-Index: Ac3g+/lxH8pCea11QqmLfSw+Lz3GGwADouMg X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Graham, >Ah , so when is a beacon not a beacon .?.. when its a slow cw qso ! The main reason why Wolf's cw sounds like a beacon I believe is mainly because it's very exact in timing. Never heard such an exact cw. [...] Content analysis details: (0.3 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [212.227.15.18 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.3 URIBL_RHS_DOB Contains an URI of a new domain (Day Old Bread) [URIs: blacksheep.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (cpaul[at]gmx.net) -0.0 T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: 14e68a9cb6dee915a96310ea9bf261c5 Subject: RE: LF: DF0WD 472 cw beacon ? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0003_01CDE114.6B993290" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d605a50d6fe576e57 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0003_01CDE114.6B993290 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Graham, =20 >Ah , so when is a beacon not a beacon .?.. when its a slow cw qso !=20 =20 The main reason why Wolf's cw sounds like a beacon I believe is mainly because it's very exact in timing. Never heard such an exact cw. =20 73 Clemens DL4RAJ=20 =20 _____ =20 From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 11:53 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: DF0WD 472 cw beacon ? Ok Wolf,=20 =20 Ah , so when is a beacon not a beacon .?.. when its a slow cw = qso ! =20 I only looked for short time and copied the call two times =20 =20 Jan had qsb on my signal , but he was ok with me , only 1 or 2 = s points , but 500 seems to have a distinct time X distance window = at these ranges , where signal's peak and fall away=20 =20 73 -G.. From: wolf_dl4yhf =20 Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 12:45 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: DF0WD 472 cw beacon ? No beacon, one of the very last modes I'd ever use on MF. Actually I had heard you (G0NBD) with a strong solid signal earlier with PA3ABK. Had switched to 'really slow cw' (but not QRSS) to work 9H1ES, and = thought there may be even more "dx". There wasn't . 73, Wolf DL4YHF / DF0WD . Am 23.12.2012 01:10, schrieb Graham: Ok, no cq when I received df0wd , slow cw , beacon may be , = just called 502/472 2400z no reply , good signal from bia ? wherever = that is ! =20 73 -G.. =20 From: Markus Vester =20 Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 11:34 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: DF0WD 472 cw beacon ? Now at 23:32 Wolf has been calling CQ. a while ago he had mentioned that = he was listening 501 to 503 kHz as well. =20 73, Markus From: Graham =20 Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 11:55 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: DF0WD 472 cw beacon ? Is DF0WD a 5 wpm CW beacon ? round 472k ? =20 Graham G0NBD E-Mail ist virenfrei. 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Graham,
 
>Ah , so when is a = beacon not a=20 beacon .?.. when its a slow cw qso !
 
The = main reason why=20 Wolf's cw sounds like a beacon I believe is mainly because it's very = exact in=20 timing.
Never heard = such an exact=20 cw.
 

73
Clemens
DL4RAJ

 

From: = owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of=20 Graham
Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 11:53 = AM
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: DF0WD 472 cw = beacon=20 ?

Ok Wolf,
 
Ah , so  when is a  beacon not  a  beacon = .?.. =20 when its a  slow  cw  qso  !
 
I only looked  for short time  and  copied = the =20 call   two  times 
 
Jan had  qsb on my  signal  , but  he = was =20 ok  with  me , only   1  or 2   s = points ,=20 but  500  seems to  have a distinct   = time =20 X  distance  window at these  ranges , where = signal's =20 peak  and  fall  away
 
73 -G..

Sent: Sunday, December 23, 2012 12:45 AM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Subject: Re: LF: DF0WD 472 cw beacon ?

No beacon, one of the very last modes I'd = ever use=20 on MF.

Actually I had heard you (G0NBD) with a strong solid = signal=20 earlier with PA3ABK.

Had switched to 'really slow cw' (but not = QRSS) to=20 work 9H1ES, and thought there may be even more "dx". There wasn't=20 .

73,
   Wolf DL4YHF / DF0WD .

Am = 23.12.2012 01:10,=20 schrieb Graham:
Ok,   no cq  when I received   = df0wd  ,=20 slow  cw  , beacon   may be , just =20 called 502/472   2400z  no  reply , = good =20 signal from  bia  ? wherever  that  is !
 
73 -G.. 

From: Markus = Vester=20
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 11:34 PM
Subject: Re: LF: DF0WD 472 cw beacon ?

Now at 23:32 Wolf has = been calling CQ. a=20 while ago he had mentioned that he = was listening=20 501 to 503 kHz as well.
 
73, Markus

From: Graham=20
Sent: Saturday, December 22, 2012 11:55 PM
Subject: LF: DF0WD 472 cw beacon ?

Is  DF0WD  a  5  wpm  CW  beacon=20 ?   round 472k ?
 
Graham
G0NBD

E-Mail ist = virenfrei.
Von AVG=20 =FCberpr=FCft - www.avg.de
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