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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: All very mysterious Mal , may be it can predict the winner in the 2-30 at Chepstow ? G : ) From: mal hamilton Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2012 6:46 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: LF: Re: R7NT Op32 correlation detection [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [80.12.242.29 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: 16a6530e4735ccb856cf9bc7c6cb9773 Subject: Re: LF: Re: R7NT Op32 correlation detection Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00CB_01CDD591.8B004F80" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d404950c3bc6e5556 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_00CB_01CDD591.8B004F80 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable All very mysterious Mal , may be it can predict the winner in the = 2-30 at Chepstow ?=20 G : ) From: mal hamilton=20 Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2012 6:46 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: Re: R7NT Op32 correlation detection This procedure is known as the Fiddle Factor or Guessawork. I prefer to see the the signal of intercept in real time properly for = genuine ID g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Markus Vester=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2012 6:03 PM Subject: LF: R7NT Op32 correlation detection Alex, LF, the Op32 signal from R7NT was well visible in the 21 mHz TA window. I = made two recordings of a 2 Hz band around the anounced frequency, one = from 22:08 to 08:11 UT and another one in daylight from 12:06 to 15:25. = Then I ran both through my Opera correlation detector, see attached = result. The first two lines are a list of several known active Opera stations. = Each of these was tried in the cross correlation procedure. The lines = below that are the successful hits. Going from left to right, the = printed output contains: time window for correlation (decimal UT hours before / after midnight = last night), frequency of carrier peak, uncalibrated "raw" dB of detected carrier, carrier SNR after a "carrier autofocus" procedure, which removes = small amouts of chirp and optimally weighs the amplitude for QSB, SNR on the Opera scale (ie. carrier in 2.5 kHz minus 4 dB), either c or i for a coherent or incoherent demodulation, UT hour of the winning correlation peak (corresponds to the start of = the transmission, SNR of correlation peak in time domain, callsign of the winner of the correlation procedure. Now running a recording on 137567 to look for UA0AET tonight. Best 73, Markus (DF6NM) From: Graham=20 Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 8:44 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: 73! Alex R7NT beacon Op32 on 137.588 now and till to my = sunrise(abt 5z) I start the beacon Op32 on 137.588 now and till to my sunrise(abt 5z) I plan to acty in QRSS3\10 tomorrow night on abt 137.705 TX abt 60W Output TX\RX Ant sLoop 200m total length abt @12...18m 73! Alex R7NT ------=_NextPart_000_00CB_01CDD591.8B004F80 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
All  very mysterious  Mal , may be it =  can =20 predict the  winner  in the  2-30  at Chepstow ? =
 
G : )

From: mal hamilton
Sent: Saturday, December 08, 2012 6:46 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Subject: LF: Re: R7NT Op32 correlation = detection

This procedure is known as the Fiddle Factor or=20 Guessawork.
I prefer to see the the signal of intercept in = real=20 time properly for genuine ID
g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Markus=20 Vester
Sent: Saturday, December 08, = 2012 6:03=20 PM
Subject: LF: R7NT Op32 = correlation=20 detection

Alex, LF,
 
the Op32 signal from R7NT was well = visible in the=20 21 mHz TA window. I made two recordings of a 2 Hz band around the = anounced=20 frequency, one from 22:08 to 08:11 UT and another one in daylight = from=20 12:06 to 15:25. Then I ran both through my Opera correlation=20 detector, see attached result.
 
The first two lines are a = list of=20 several known active Opera stations. Each of these was tried in=20 the cross correlation procedure. The=20 lines below that are the successful hits. Going from left to = right,=20 the printed output contains:
 
 time window for correlation = (decimal UT=20 hours before / after midnight last night),
 frequency of carrier = peak,
 uncalibrated "raw" dB of = detected=20 carrier,
 carrier SNR after a "carrier = autofocus"=20 procedure, which removes small amouts of chirp and optimally = weighs the=20 amplitude for QSB,
 SNR on the Opera scale (ie. = carrier in 2.5=20 kHz minus 4 dB),
 either c or i for a = coherent or=20 incoherent demodulation,
 UT hour of the winning = correlation peak=20 (corresponds to the start of the transmission,
 SNR of correlation peak in = time=20 domain,
 callsign of the winner of the = correlation=20 procedure.
 
Now running a recording on 137567 to = look for=20 UA0AET tonight.
 
Best 73,
Markus (DF6NM)
 
From: Graham
Sent: Friday, December 07, 2012 8:44 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Subject: LF: 73! Alex R7NT beacon Op32 on 137.588 now and = till to=20 my sunrise(abt 5z)

I start the beacon Op32 on 137.588 now and till to my sunrise(abt = 5z)

I plan to acty in QRSS3\10 tomorrow night on abt = 137.705
TX abt=20 60W Output
TX\RX Ant sLoop 200m total length abt = @12...18m

73! Alex=20 R7NT
 
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