Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mp03.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id C982C380000DC; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 16:04:05 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1TZ6aV-0002yd-2H for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 21:03:03 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1TZ6aU-0002yU-9A for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 21:03:02 +0000 Received: from blu0-omc1-s16.blu0.hotmail.com ([65.55.116.27]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1TZ6aK-0007qw-Ra for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Thu, 15 Nov 2012 21:03:01 +0000 Received: from BLU153-W58 ([65.55.116.9]) by blu0-omc1-s16.blu0.hotmail.com with Microsoft SMTPSVC(6.0.3790.4675); Thu, 15 Nov 2012 13:02:51 -0800 Message-ID: X-Originating-IP: [136.226.254.42] From: Laurence KL1 X To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Date: Thu, 15 Nov 2012 12:02:51 -0900 Importance: Normal MIME-Version: 1.0 X-OriginalArrivalTime: 15 Nov 2012 21:02:51.0458 (UTC) FILETIME=[9310B220:01CDC374] X-Spam-Score: -0.1 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: What ho chaps - CW is fine if we get the levels needed to actually hear and decode - I for one still use it commercially, and probably on the declining numbers of "units" still using it on a day to day basis at "work". I have to use it as my partners often dont speak English and luckily the Q code and CW shorthand cuts that issue - though my global client list is getting shorter and shorter :-) But it does have limitations on my ham side; the CW receptions of stations on 137 is 1 and 3 on on 500 - so pretty restrictive Visual and other data modes make it possible. Thats all. Thats if the basic QSO was the only goal - which in my case it isnt. Like you ever dB matters beit erp or s/n If I was sitting in the middle of Europe I would probably be singing a different song. Horses for courses and CW is just one of the modes in my tool kit The high geomag and physical latitude and closeness to the Pole means we have severe LF MF attenuation a lot of the time - for instance there can be times when DCF39 at night can be (rarely) 9+ and a geostorm (mid lat K=4 !) or the solar wind kicks up with the wrong Bz component, Proton count comes up from 0, Butterlfly flaps its wings in Leeds - and then I cant see it at all Argo 120 secs, thats a lot of dBs - it means that in 10 years of LF operation off and on that Ive heard just one or two Dx signals strong enough to probably conduct a CW qso. Even with data modes openings are rare, but no so much and its that that makes it worthwhile or Id be listening to static for the most part over the last ten years....and be deafer than I am now. ps The TS850 is now GPS locked and able to transmit voice/data (no CW or AM) on 500 and 137KHz directly out of the IF port :-) - now to frig HRD and TRX to get it transmit via CAT below 1.6MHz.... Laurence KL1 X (2AZT) WE2XPQ Palmer Wasilla Alaska [...] Content analysis details: (-0.1 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [65.55.116.27 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (hellozerohellozero[at]hotmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -0.1 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: 4f449c45f7b1894a9195a328eedaeb30 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_9c82c22c-9a9a-4e9d-be2f-0a599f3ea1d9_" Subject: LF: CW? X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, HTML_MESSAGE,TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1dc14750a558c55d69 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none --_9c82c22c-9a9a-4e9d-be2f-0a599f3ea1d9_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable What ho chaps - CW is fine if we get the levels needed to actually hear an= d decode - I for one still use it commercially=2C and probably on the decli= ning numbers of "units" still using it on a day to day basis at "work". I h= ave to use it as my partners often dont speak English and luckily the Q cod= e and CW shorthand cuts that issue - though my global client list is gettin= g shorter and shorter :-) But it does have limitations on my ham side=3B t= he CW receptions of stations on 137 is 1 and 3 on on 500 - so pretty restr= ictive Visual and other data modes make it possible. Thats all. Thats if th= e basic QSO was the only goal - which in my case it isnt. Like you ever dB = matters beit erp or s/n If I was sitting in the middle of Europe I would pr= obably be singing a different song. Horses for courses and CW is just one o= f the modes in my tool kit The high geomag and physical latitude and close= ness to the Pole means we have severe LF MF attenuation a lot of the time -= for instance there can be times when DCF39 at night can be (rarely) 9+ and= a geostorm (mid lat K=3D4 !) or the solar wind kicks up with the wrong Bz = component=2C Proton count comes up from 0=2C Butterlfly flaps its wings in = Leeds - and then I cant see it at all Argo 120 secs=2C thats a lot of dBs = - it means that in 10 years of LF operation off and on that Ive heard just = one or two Dx signals strong enough to probably conduct a CW qso. Even wit= h data modes openings are rare=2C but no so much and its that that makes it= worthwhile or Id be listening to static for the most part over the last te= n years....and be deafer than I am now. ps The TS850 is now GPS locked and = able to transmit voice/data (no CW or AM) on 500 and 137KHz directly out of= the IF port :-) - now to frig HRD and TRX to get it transmit via CAT below= 1.6MHz.... Laurence KL1 X (2AZT) WE2XPQ Palmer Wasilla Alaska = = --_9c82c22c-9a9a-4e9d-be2f-0a599f3ea1d9_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

What ho chaps -
 =3B
CW is fine if we get the levels needed = to actually hear and decode - I for one still use it commercially=2C and pr= obably on the declining numbers of "units" still using it on a day to day b= asis at "work". I have to use it as my partners often =3Bdont speak Eng= lish and luckily =3Bthe Q code and CW shorthand cuts that issue - thoug= h my global =3Bclient list is getting shorter and shorter :-)
 = =3B
 =3BBut it does have limitations on my ham side=3B the CW recept= ions of stations on =3B137 is 1 and 3 on on 500 =3B - so pretty res= trictive
 =3B
Visual and other data modes make it possible. Thats= all. Thats if the basic QSO was the only goal - which in my case it isnt. = Like you ever dB matters beit erp or s/n
 =3B
If I was sitting in= the middle of Europe I would probably be singing a different song.
&nbs= p=3B
Horses for courses and CW is just one of the modes in my tool kit&n= bsp=3B
 =3B
The high geomag and physical latitude and closeness t= o the Pole means we have severe LF MF =3Battenuation a lot of the time = - for instance there can be times when DCF39 at night can be (rarely) = =3B9+ and a geostorm (mid lat K=3D4 !) or the solar wind kicks up with the = wrong Bz component=2C Proton count comes up from =3B0=2C Butterlfly fla= ps its wings =3Bin Leeds - =3Band =3B then I =3Bcant see it= at all Argo 120 secs=2C thats =3Ba lot of dBs =3B- it means that i= n 10 years of LF operation off and on that Ive heard just one or two = =3BDx signals strong enough to probably conduct a CW qso.
 =3B
E= ven with data modes openings are rare=2C but no so much and its that that m= akes it worthwhile or Id be listening to static for the most part over the = last ten years....and be deafer than I am now.
 =3B
ps The TS850 = is now GPS locked and able to transmit voice/data (no CW or AM) =3Bon 5= 00 and =3B137KHz directly out of the IF port :-) - now to frig HRD and = TRX to get it =3Btransmit via CAT below 1.6MHz.... =3B
 =3B<= BR>Laurence KL1 X =3B (2AZT) =3B WE2XPQ Palmer Wasilla Alaska
=
= --_9c82c22c-9a9a-4e9d-be2f-0a599f3ea1d9_--