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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Jay et al Yep - the stability is good enough at dot 90 and really all I need I do is move the TS870 into the garage as it has a known WOLF proof pedigree in a transverter mode - bit nippy out there at 0F this morning. At least all the capacitors and inductors are thermally cold I was just writing to Mike ZL4OL to see if he wants to look for me tonight- Conditions over here have still some ways to go over the Pole at this Geomag latitude and location closer to the North Mag Pole - DCF39 at peaks was some 25dB on what it has been over past winters - but hows about DFCW 90 137.776 ish Delta 0.3Hz Dash high XPQ? The big tx loop has been inferior to the L400B probe on receive by about a dB s/n over the N Pole but again wave angles change - if I was to go into transceive mode I would use the probe - but there again Im a Part 5 station and all that. Ive not managed to get to Europe on Tx -as we have learned from others its a bit tenuous even though length isnt over 8K - makes it more interesting and a technical challenge - as it is Ive never ever seen a signal out of Europe that has been strong enough to detect by ear - CW may be possible with JA/VE7/W7 as Ive heard tone ID strengths from 7NI/TIL/SL and others. I think only a handful of Eu stations have made to to KL7 on 137 over the past 10 years - G3AQC, G3LDO, DF6NM and DK7FC..may have missed one or two. Ive left the Gear running on tx remote using JT9-5 for the whole of the daylight as we do have a path to the USA West coast stations this time of the year - or if the Sun flashes up with a flare weve seen daylight openings from here with XDW as far south as California. Laurence KL1 X WE2XPQA chilly Alaska morning From: Mon, 5 Nov 2012 13:44:15 -0500 Subject: Re: LF: JT9-30 drfit [...] Content analysis details: (-0.4 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [65.55.116.30 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (hellozerohellozero[at]hotmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -0.4 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: 0a8bac5594b583e1d7c1e245a9e3ea16 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_f69d17fa-ad76-4756-a76a-6f096b47e097_" Subject: RE: LF: JT9-30 drfit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_20_30, HTML_MESSAGE,TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60cd509816706713 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none --_f69d17fa-ad76-4756-a76a-6f096b47e097_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Jay et al Yep - the stability is good enough at dot 90 and really all I ne= ed I do is move the TS870 into the garage as it has a known WOLF proof pedi= gree in a transverter mode - bit nippy out there at 0F this morning. At lea= st all the capacitors and inductors are thermally cold I was just writing t= o Mike ZL4OL to see if he wants to look for me tonight- Conditions over he= re have still some ways to go over the Pole at this Geomag latitude and loc= ation closer to the North Mag Pole - DCF39 at peaks was some 25dB on what i= t has been over past winters - but hows about DFCW 90 137.776 ish Delta 0.= 3Hz Dash high XPQ? The big tx loop has been inferior to the L400B probe on = receive by about a dB s/n over the N Pole but again wave angles change - if= I was to go into transceive mode I would use the probe - but there again I= m a Part 5 station and all that. Ive not managed to get to Europe on Tx -a= s we have learned from others its a bit tenuous even though length isnt ove= r 8K - makes it more interesting and a technical challenge - as it is Ive n= ever ever seen a signal out of Europe that has been strong enough to detect= by ear - CW may be possible with JA/VE7/W7 as Ive heard tone ID strengths = from 7NI/TIL/SL and others. I think only a handful of Eu stations have mad= e to to KL7 on 137 over the past 10 years - G3AQC=2C G3LDO=2C DF6NM and DK7= FC..may have missed one or two. Ive left the Gear running on tx remote usin= g JT9-5 for the whole of the daylight as we do have a path to the USA West = coast stations this time of the year - or if the Sun flashes up with a flar= e weve seen daylight openings from here with XDW as far south as California= . Laurence KL1 X WE2XPQA chilly Alaska morning=20 From: jrusgrove@comcast.net To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Date: Mon=2C 5 Nov 2012 13:44:15 -0500 Subject: Re: LF: JT9-30 drfit Laurence Stefan =20 Is stability good enough for QRSS / DFCW 60 or=20 120? Eyes have an easier time following frequency excursions than most digi= tal=20 mode decoders ... =20 Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 =20 =20 ----- Original Message -----=20 From:=20 Stefan Sch=E4fer=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 =20 Sent: Monday=2C November 05=2C 2012 12:56=20 PM Subject: Re: LF: JT9-30 drfit =20 Hi Laurence=2C=20 Condx are EXCELLENT on LF/MF. Do you see=20 real chance for our path this night? If so=2C which mode would be preferr= ed? And=20 are you RXing or TXing at all? :-) 73=2C Stefan/DK7FC Am=20 05.11.2012 18:09=2C schrieb Laurence KL1 X:=20 =20 >From WE2XPQ KL1 X Alaska=20 Chaps/chappesses -Looking=20 at my results here overnight I have just too much thermal drift with my= =20 present driver for the 30 mode - the issue is my trusty FT817 driver us= ing=20 5MHz IF that even with a TXCO is...too drifty. JT9-5 is fine - But hey= =20 it may have been pretty on an Argo/SL screen :-)=20 The environment is=20 rather hostile for radios - temps are around 0degC in the garage even w= ith=20 heat (that I can afford anyway) so from long off periods the radio cool= s=20 even internally..I need to being the lot back in the office/shack - but= real=20 estate is rather limited and Im in deep negotiations with the=20 boss. Its fine with the "faster" modes but I have some work to do=20 with the 850 and other drivers - it was just a stop gap to get me on th= e=20 air. Ill dig out the ZL1BPU DDS and continue to work on the 850 externa= l=20 locked ref oscillator doubler board. Ill run JT9-5 for a while today=20 for testing purposes - dial 136=2C tx plus 1100Hz (carrier 137.11 appx= )=20 -=20 Laurence Wasilla Palmer=20 Alaska = --_f69d17fa-ad76-4756-a76a-6f096b47e097_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Jay et al
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Yep - the stability is good enough at = dot 90 and really all I need =3BI do is move the TS870 into the garage = as it has a known WOLF proof pedigree in a transverter mode - bit nippy out= there at 0F this morning. At least all the capacitors and inductors are th= ermally cold
 =3B
I was just writing to Mike ZL4OL to see if he w= ants to look for me tonight-
 =3B
Conditions over here have stil= l some ways to go =3Bover the =3BPole at this Geomag latitude and l= ocation closer to the North Mag Pole - DCF39 at peaks was some 25dB on what= it has been over past winters  =3B- but hows about DFCW 90 137.776 ish=  =3BDelta 0.3Hz Dash high XPQ? =3BThe big tx loop =3Bhas been i= nferior to the L400B probe on receive by about a dB s/n =3Bover the N&n= bsp=3BPole but again wave angles change - if I was to go into transceive mo= de I would use the probe - but there again Im a Part 5 station and all that= .
 =3B
 =3BIve not managed to get to Europe on Tx =3B-as = we have =3Blearned from others its a bit tenuous even though length isn= t over =3B8K - makes it more interesting and =3Ba technical challen= ge - as it is Ive never ever seen a signal out of =3BEurope that has be= en strong enough to detect by ear - CW may be possible with JA/VE7/W7 as Iv= e heard =3Btone ID strengths from 7NI/TIL/SL and others.
 =3BI think only a handful of Eu stations have made to to KL7 on 137 over the= past 10 years =3B- G3AQC=2C G3LDO=2C DF6NM and DK7FC..may have missed = one or two.
 =3B
Ive left the Gear running on tx =3Bremote&nb= sp=3Busing JT9-5 for the whole of the daylight as we do have a path to the = USA West coast stations this time of the =3Byear - or if the Sun flashe= s up with a flare weve seen daylight openings from here with XDW as far sou= th as California.
 =3B
Laurence KL1 X =3B WE2XPQ
A chilly = Alaska morning
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From: jrusgrove@comcast.net
To: rs= gb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Date: Mon=2C 5 Nov 2012 13:44:15 -0500
Sub= ject: Re: LF: JT9-30 drfit

Laurence Stefan
 =3B
Is stability good enough for QRSS / DF= CW =3B60 or=20 120? Eyes have an easier time following frequency excursions than most digi= tal=20 mode decoders ...
 =3B
Jay W1VD =3B WD2XNS =3B WE2XGR= /2
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday=2C November 05=2C 2012 12:56=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: JT9-30 drfit

Hi Laurence=2C

Condx are EXCELLENT on LF/MF. Do yo= u see=20 real chance for our path this night? If so=2C which mode would be preferr= ed? And=20 are you RXing or TXing at all? :-)

73=2C Stefan/DK7FC


A= m=20 05.11.2012 18:09=2C schrieb Laurence KL1 X:=20
>=3BFrom WE2XPQ KL1 X Alaska

Chaps/chappesse= s -Looking=20 at my results here overnight I have just too much thermal drift with my= =20 present driver for the 30 mode - the issue is my trusty FT817 driver us= ing=20 5MHz IF that even with a TXCO is...too drifty. JT9-5 is fine - =3B = But hey=20 it may have been pretty on an Argo/SL screen :-)

The environmen= t is=20 rather hostile for radios - temps are around 0degC in the garage even w= ith=20 heat (that I can afford anyway) so from long off periods the radio cool= s=20 even internally..I need to being the lot back in the office/shack - but= real=20 estate is rather limited and Im in deep negotiations with the=20 boss.

Its fine with the "faster" modes but I have some work to d= o=20 with the 850 and other drivers - it was just a stop gap to get me on th= e=20 air. Ill dig out the ZL1BPU DDS and continue to work on the 850 externa= l=20 locked ref oscillator doubler board.

Ill run JT9-5 for a while t= oday=20 for testing purposes - dial 136=2C tx plus 1100Hz =3B (carrier 137.= 11 appx)=20 -

Laurence Wasilla Palmer=20 Alaska
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