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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Thanks, i'll keep going on op4 for the whole night than. But we all should try to test op8 than probably tomorrow night? 73, Jochen [...] Content analysis details: (1.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [213.165.64.22 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (althoff[at]gmx.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 1.0 FREEMAIL_REPLY From and body contain different freemails X-Scan-Signature: 7ac7ee35f057d93c45272d71554a4074 Subject: Re: LF: MF: OP4 at 477 dial all 8 Minutes Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=Apple-Mail-7-527822469 X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_FONTCOLOR_RED, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d6056509d785b6936 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none --Apple-Mail-7-527822469 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Thanks, i'll keep going on op4 for the whole night than. But we all should try = to test op8 than probably tomorrow night? 73, Jochen -=3D DF1VB =3D- -=3D KH2MM=3D- Jochen Althoff +491712001068 althoff@gmx.com Am 09.11.2012 um 22:27 schrieb Graham: > NO Don't switch !!!!! > =20 > The Rx stations will need to select OP8 , and many will be = unattended and will not decode ( the early versions where dual = rx/speed but produced too many false decodes , so separate pass = bands are defined) > =20 > Better to post in the web group's before , then monitors = will be set OP8 =20 > =20 > It is possible to run X2 opera one set op4 and the other = op8 for Rx=20 > =20 > Tx , if using the audio o/p , then the frequency is changed to = the other pass band ( if you have rx / tx by convertor / sdr = , the tx carrier is placed a the lowest s/n point in the = spectrum , to prevent collisions)=20 > =20 > G.. >=20 > From: Jochen Althoff > Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 9:19 PM > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: MF: OP4 at 477 dial all 8 Minutes >=20 > Graham, >=20 > what do you think, shall i switch to OP8 now? Is't it so that the = Programm is switching the rx automatically? > The OP4 / OP8 switch has only affect for the TX, or? >=20 > 73, Jochen >=20 >=20 > -=3D DF1VB =3D- > -=3D KH2MM=3D- > Jochen Althoff > +491712001068 > althoff@gmx.com >=20 >=20 >=20 > Am 09.11.2012 um 22:11 schrieb Graham: >=20 >> At-25 with Mal , that was with 4 watts , shows at the end of = the text , >> =20 >> -11 dB is back with 65 watts=20 >> 20:46 477 DF1VB de G3KEV Op4 388 mi -11 dB in SCARBOROUGH with 65w + = Inverted L >>=20 >> RX3DHR is monitoring so you never know , may decode later in = the night ... =20 >>=20 >> OP8 has never been tested on 500 at any range , may be that's = something that could be tried one night .. ? >>=20 >> 73 -G.. >>=20 >>=20 >> =20 >>=20 >> From: Markus Vester >> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 8:57 PM >> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> Subject: Re: LF: MF: OP4 at 477 dial all 8 Minutes >>=20 >> Hi Graham, I think Jochen was back up at 65W at the time of the = decode. >> https://dl.dropbox.com/u/26404526/mf_1211092000.jpg >> =20 >> Best of luck, >> Markus (DF6NM) >> =20 >>=20 >> =20 >> From: Graham >> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 8:58 PM >> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> Subject: Re: LF: MF: OP4 at 477 dial all 8 Minutes >>=20 >> 19:56 477 DF1VB de G3KEV Op4 388 mi -25 dB in SCARBOROUGH with 4w + = Inverted L 1 >>=20 >> well 6 dB 1 watt should decode >>=20 >> From: Jochen Althoff >> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 9:03 PM >> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> Subject: Re: LF: MF: OP4 at 477 dial all 8 Minutes >>=20 >> Well, >>=20 >> i can't turn down my tx more... 4w is lowest possible. >> Now back to 65w... >>=20 >> Jochen >>=20 >> From: Jochen Althoff >> Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 7:53 PM >> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> Subject: Re: LF: MF: OP4 at 477 dial all 8 Minutes >>=20 >> One more try with 4w now ;-) >> =20 >> -=3D DF1VB =3D- >> -=3D KH2MM=3D- >> Jochen Althoff >> +491712001068 >> althoff@gmx.com >=20 --Apple-Mail-7-527822469 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1
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Am 09.11.2012 um 22:27 schrieb Graham:

NO Don't  switch  !!!!!
 
The  Rx  stations  will  need  to =20 select  OP8   , and  many  will  be =20= unattended  and  will  not  decode ( the  early=20= versions  where  dual   rx/speed  but =20 produced   too  many  false  decodes , so =20= separate pass  bands are  defined)
 
Better  to  post   in the   web=20 group's   before  ,  then  monitors  = will =20 be  set  OP8  
 
It is  possible to  run  X2   = opera  =20 one set  op4  and the  other  op8   = for =20 Rx 
 
Tx , if using  the  audio  o/p , then  = the =20 frequency  is  changed  to  the  other  = pass =20 band  ( if  you  have  rx / tx  = by  =20 convertor  / sdr  , the  tx  carrier  is  = placed a=20 the  lowest  s/n point  in the  spectrum , to =20= prevent  collisions) 
 
G..

Graham,=20

what do you think, shall i switch to OP8 now? Is't it so that the = Programm=20 is switching the rx automatically?
The OP4 / OP8 switch has only affect for the TX, or?

73, Jochen



Am 09.11.2012 um 22:11 schrieb Graham:

At-25  with  Mal , that  was  with  = 4 =20 watts  , shows at the  end of the  text  ,
 
-11 dB   is  back  with  65 watts  =

20:46 477 DF1VB de G3KEV Op4 388 mi = -11 dB in SCARBOROUGH with 65w + Inverted = L

RX3DHR  is  monitoring  so  = you  never know =20 , may  decode  later  in the  night = ...  

OP8 has  never  been  tested  = on 500  at any range=20 , may  be  that's  something  that  = could =20 be  tried  one  night .. ?

73 -G..


 
 
Best of luck, =
Markus = (DF6NM)
 

 

19:56 477 DF1VB de G3KEV Op4 388 mi = -25 dB in SCARBOROUGH=20 with 4w + Inverted L = 1

well   6 dB   1 = watt  should =20 decode  = <Emoticon1.gif>

Sent: Friday, November 09, 2012 9:03 PM
Subject: Re: LF: MF: OP4 at 477 dial all 8 = Minutes

Well,=20

i can't turn down my tx more... 4w is lowest possible.
Now back to 65w...

Jochen

One= more try with 4w now ;-)=20
 


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