Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mj04.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 41A41380000B2; Tue, 6 Nov 2012 15:08:56 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1TVpGC-0001gA-BR for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2012 19:56:32 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1TVpGB-0001g1-UD for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2012 19:56:31 +0000 Received: from smtpout3.wanadoo.co.uk ([80.12.242.59] helo=smtpout.wanadoo.co.uk) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1TVpGA-0003Rl-4c for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 06 Nov 2012 19:56:30 +0000 Received: from AGB ([2.26.46.164]) by mwinf5d35 with ME id LKwV1k00C3YYEey03KwV79; Tue, 06 Nov 2012 20:56:29 +0100 Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <50995FB6.5030209@freenet.de> In-Reply-To: <50995FB6.5030209@freenet.de> Date: Tue, 6 Nov 2012 19:56:29 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8117.416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8117.416 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Wolf , How far from the time server ? I have Just check and re-sync shows at +0.003 , +0.002 , +0.002 [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [80.12.242.59 listed in list.dnswl.org] X-Scan-Signature: 7ab87d4d3ea1d9dcb73a78e83fe4d608 Subject: Re: LF: Computer time synchronisation / Dimension 4 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="ISO-8859-15"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d7b9850996e58601d X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Wolf , How far from the time server ? I have Just check and re-sync shows at +0.003 , +0.002 , +0.002 using Manchester 25 miles from me G.. -------------------------------------------------- From: "wolf_dl4yhf" Sent: Tuesday, November 06, 2012 7:06 PM To: "RSGB LF Group at blacksheep" ; "RSGB LF Group at Yahoo" Subject: LF: Computer time synchronisation / Dimension 4 > Greetings all, > > For the WSJT experiments, I had installed Dimension 4 on a windows 7 > machine. > > Seemed to work (at least I thought), but then I made these observations: > > - on the Windows 7 machine, WSJT-X almost never decoded > > - When asking Dimension 4 to re-synchronize the PC's system time via > internet, the program repeatedly reported an offset of 0.7 to 0.8 seconds. > Even when repeated a few seconds later, D4 still reported such an > unusually large difference between "internet time" and the local time. > > - Then modified the properties of D4 (after right-clicking on its icon) to > run it with administrator privileges > > - Then tried the second step again: Repeatedly asked D4 to 'synchronize > now', in short intervals. Result: First corrected by 0.7 seconds, but > after that, only by something like +40 milliseconds, -40 milliseconds, +40 > milliseconds, etc. This is a similar behaviour as it had when D4 was > running on the trusty old windows XP machine. > > I haven't tried WSJT-X again since then, but maybe later.. > > BTW Window's own time-synchronizing service hardly ever works here, > regardless of which time server is selected. > > Guesswork: Maybe without admin privileges, Dimension 4 can detect the > offset, but fails to set the PC's system time to the new (synchronized) > value. Maybe others which get lots of "10 sync points but no text" in JT9 > can try this on their (Vista- or Windows 7-) machines, too. > > All the best, > Wolf DL4YHF . > > (now heading for DF0WD; no email there, but I will look out for LA5VNA and > others arount 501.5 kHz. WX here terrible, cold and rainy, so I don't > think I will stay at the club for very long) >