Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mi05.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id D4A153800008B; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 18:44:14 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1TYQ8W-0007Lc-5q for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 23:43:20 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1TYQ8V-0007LQ-OM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 23:43:19 +0000 Received: from smtpout3.wanadoo.co.uk ([80.12.242.59] helo=smtpout.wanadoo.co.uk) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1TYQ8U-0001QJ-0P for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 13 Nov 2012 23:43:18 +0000 Received: from AGB ([2.26.13.195]) by mwinf5d45 with ME id PBjG1k0054CW4NS03BjGqn; Wed, 14 Nov 2012 00:43:17 +0100 Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <50A2C13C.80500@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <50A2C6E6.7050303@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> In-Reply-To: <50A2C6E6.7050303@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Tue, 13 Nov 2012 23:43:16 -0000 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8117.416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8117.416 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Well that's true , Its a true live keyboard data mode , with no time locking or limits normal hardware requirement's , can be used as a beacon , but Opera is the better option for this (now) there are 2 speeds mf-2 and mf-7 , mf-7 data rate is the same as psk31 , with s/n 10 or 12 dB lower , non linear pa and not affected by phase , mf-2 same s/n as wspr and about 8/9 dB lower than mf-7 [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [80.12.242.59 listed in list.dnswl.org] X-Scan-Signature: 195b836cb7437e99aa05107459888659 Subject: Re: LF: LF WSPR overnight Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="ISO-8859-15"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d7b8d50a2db4e3511 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Well that's true , Its a true live keyboard data mode , with no time locking or limits normal hardware requirement's , can be used as a beacon , but Opera is the better option for this (now) there are 2 speeds mf-2 and mf-7 , mf-7 data rate is the same as psk31 , with s/n 10 or 12 dB lower , non linear pa and not affected by phase , mf-2 same s/n as wspr and about 8/9 dB lower than mf-7 Development , its really down to how long would stations wait for a 'qso' at the moment 2 baud is just about usable for a normal exchange , would 10x times longer be used ? with another 8/9 dB gain , say 10 db lower than wspr ? 73 -G.. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Stefan Schäfer" Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 10:17 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: LF WSPR overnight > ...because nearly no one is using the mode and because there are already > to many modes. > I don't even have a cat but the random numbers is an argument :-) > I should send some 15P6715P67WCV for Eddie. Many jobs to do... > Apart from the jokes, i hope that JT9 makes some new steps soon. If the > timing becomes as less critical than in WSPR, it is very promising on > LF/MF! > > 73, Stefan > > > Am 13.11.2012 23:02, schrieb Graham: >> Why not send ros-mf-2 mode its the same s/n as wspr , linked >> to psk -reporter and can send ' the quick brown fox jumped over >> the lazey moon' ive two cats and a dog or anything you like >> : )) or some random numbers to cause confusion ): >> >> (but needs sdr or audio > rf translation) >> >> G.. >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Stefan Schäfer" >> Sent: Tuesday, November 13, 2012 9:53 PM >> To: >> Subject: LF: LF WSPR overnight >> >>> Dear LF group, >>> >>> In case someone is interested, i'm spending the night in WSPR (until 6 >>> UTC) on 137.44 kHz. >>> >>> 73, GL, GN, Stefan/DK7FC >>> >