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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi Marcus, Thanks for the ID on the signals. 73, Gary. [...] Content analysis details: (-0.4 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [212.74.100.53 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (g4wgt[at]tiscali.co.uk) -0.0 SPF_HELO_PASS SPF: HELO matches SPF record -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -0.4 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: 76d9bc79bd6387ba51a2380ecf8bbed1 Subject: Re: [rsgb_lf_group] Re: LF: VO1NA at 20:00 - or not? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0017_01CDCA42.C6B315D0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.3 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d601750b0c4870297 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0017_01CDCA42.C6B315D0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Marcus, Thanks for the ID on the signals. 73, Gary. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Markus Vester=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org ; rsgb_lf_group@yahoogroups.co.uk=20 Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 10:52 AM Subject: [rsgb_lf_group] Re: LF: VO1NA at 20:00 - or not? =20 Gary, your screenshot shows DFCW suffixes from RN3AGC around 137779, RA3YO = arond 137777.6, and VO1NA on 137776.9 Hz. Best 73, Markus (DF6NM) -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----=20 Von: Gary - G4WGT An: rsgb_lf_group ; rsgb_lf_group = Verschickt: Sa, 24 Nov 2012 10:28 am Betreff: Re: LF: VO1NA at 20:00 - or not? Hi Marcus, Joe & LF, After a failure of my 136kHz sound card Rx pre-amp due to a mains = surge the grabber was back on from about 2200utc last night. I note there are at least 3 visible signals on my slow grab but I can = only ID Joe VO1NA. The other two ? are not identifiable due o the very = slow scroll. Can the owners of the other signals please confirm the calls. This mornings early grab can be seen at :- https://www.dropbox.com/s/rvd79pkx4ezntf3/137780Hz-1211240800.jpg 73, Gary - G4WGT. ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Markus Vester=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 8:30 AM Subject: Re: LF: VO1NA at 20:00 - or not? Joe,=20 thanks for the info. That must have been around sunset on your = side... the signal then disappeared for a while and became again visible = after midnight UT. Coherent keying would be beneficial as it generates a sharp central = line in the spectrum which aids detection of below-noise QRSS or Opera = signals. The source doesn't need to be referenced to GPS or similar, any = stable oscillator will suffice as long as it is not interrupted by the = keying. If you are now using a divider to drive the PA you would need to = let the divider continue during key-up, and gate one of the subsequent = driver stages instead. It is also possible to generate coherent FSK or DFCW but this = requires careful adjustment of the symbol timing and frequncy shift so = that df * dt is an integer number (as in WSPR or WSJT-X). Best 73, Markus (DF6NM) From: jcraig@mun.ca=20 Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 3:11 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: VO1NA at 20:00 - or not? Dear Markus, Group. Thank-you for the report. Yes, VO1NA is on the air however there is = still=20 work needed towards achieving phase coherence keying! The TX is a = 100 watt class E: an IRFP260N driven by a TC4427. Hopefully the Decca will be back in service soon. 73 Joe On Fri, 23 Nov 2012, Markus Vester wrote: > Nice signals from the east (YO and AGC in red) and west (an = early?blue NA on 137777), simultaneously in the TA window > http://www.alice-dsl.net/df6nm/grabber/Grabber.htm > ? > > Well at?least that's what I thought,?but no?trace?of VO1NA?yet on > http://www.w1vd.com/grabber.html > ? > Joe, are you on air? > ? > Best 73, > Markus (DF6NM) > > ? > > This electronic communication is governed by the terms and = conditions at = http://www.mun.ca/cc/policies/electronic_communications_disclaimer_2012.p= hp __._,_.___ Reply to sender | Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a new = topic=20 Messages in this topic (3)=20 Recent Activity: a.. 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Hi Marcus,
 
Thanks for the ID on the = signals.
 
73, Gary.
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Markus=20 Vester
Sent: Saturday, November 24, = 2012 10:52=20 AM
Subject: [rsgb_lf_group] Re: = LF: VO1NA at=20 20:00 - or not?

  =

Gary,
 
your = screenshot=20 shows DFCW suffixes from RN3AGC around 137779, RA3YO arond = 137777.6, and=20 VO1NA on 137776.9 Hz.
 
Best 73,
Markus (DF6NM)

-----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----
Von: Gary - = G4WGT <g4wgt@tiscali.co.uk>
An: = rsgb_lf_group <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= >;=20 rsgb_lf_group <rsgb_lf_group@yahoogroups= .co.uk>
Verschickt:=20 Sa, 24 Nov 2012 10:28 am
Betreff: Re: LF: VO1NA at 20:00 - or = not?

Hi Marcus, Joe & LF,
 
After a failure of my 136kHz sound = card Rx=20 pre-amp due to a mains surge the grabber was back on from about = 2200utc last=20 night.
 
I note there are at least 3 visible = signals on my=20 slow grab but I can only ID Joe VO1NA. The other two ? are not=20 identifiable due o the very slow scroll.
 
Can the owners of the other signals = please=20 confirm the calls.
 
This mornings early grab can be seen = at=20 :-
 
https://www.dropbox.com/s/rvd79pkx4ezntf3/137780Hz-121124= 0800.jpg
 
73,
 
Gary - G4WGT.
 
----- Original Message -----
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Sent: Saturday, November 24, = 2012 8:30=20 AM
Subject: Re: LF: VO1NA at = 20:00 - or=20 not?

Joe,
 
thanks for the info. That must have = been around=20 sunset on your side... the signal then disappeared for a while = and=20 became again visible after midnight UT.
 
Coherent keying would be beneficial = as it=20 generates a sharp central line in the spectrum which aids detection=20 of below-noise QRSS or Opera signals. The source doesn't = need to=20 be referenced to GPS or similar, any stable oscillator will suffice = as long=20 as it is not interrupted by the keying. If you are now using a = divider=20 to drive the PA you would need to let the divider continue = during=20 key-up, and gate one of the subsequent driver stages=20 instead.
 
It is also possible to generate = coherent FSK or=20 DFCW but this requires careful adjustment of the symbol timing and = frequncy=20 shift so that df * dt is an integer number (as in WSPR or=20 WSJT-X).
 
Best 73,
Markus (DF6NM)
 

Sent: Saturday, November 24, 2012 3:11 AM
Subject: Re: LF: VO1NA at 20:00 - or = not?

Dear Markus, Group.

Thank-you for the = report. =20 Yes, VO1NA is on the air however there is still
work needed = towards=20 achieving phase coherence keying!  The TX is a 100
watt = class E: an=20 IRFP260N driven by a TC4427.

Hopefully the Decca will be back = in=20 service soon.

73
Joe

On Fri, 23 Nov 2012, Markus = Vester=20 wrote:

> Nice signals from the east (YO and AGC in red) = and west=20 (an early?blue NA on 137777), simultaneously in the TA = window
> http://www.alice-dsl.net/df6nm/grabber/Grabber.htm>=20 ?
>
> Well at?least that's what I thought,?but = no?trace?of=20 VO1NA?yet on
> http://www.w1vd.com/grabber.html
> = ?
> Joe,=20 are you on air?
> ?
> Best 73,
> Markus=20 (DF6NM)
>
> ?
>
>

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