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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Your patience impresses me Stefan. LA5VNA Steinar loc:JO59jq Mal and spam filtering: STRONG www.opera.no Den 08.11.2012 16:02, skrev Stefan Schäfer: > > Am 08.11.2012 15:48, schrieb mal hamilton: >> Stefan >> 54 machines listening to each other and not a Real Operator about. >> This is a good example of Appliance Operator activities. This is not >> Real Amateur radio, there is no personal touch. Leave your machine >> unattended and hope for the best when you return from a night out or >> get up in the morning. > >> Is the the future for MF?? > No, the future is for CW! :-) If CW dies out then the whole amateur > radio dies out. It would not take to long then because CW never becomes > boring. It is fascinating to experience to listen and to instantly > "decode" the dashes and dots. It's like listening to music. > However in digimodes, there always has to be a new mode, each few > months. You know that, i know that, we know that. So don't worry! > > Anyway, there is no reason not to transmit on a ready to use antenna > while beeing outside the shack. This helps to move some interest from HF > to MF and to generate newcomers and so on. Also it is interesting to see > what is possible and to see who is on the band (or who's PC is on the > band if you prefer that). > > 73, Stefan/DK7FC > > > > > >> g3kev >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* Stefan Schäfer >> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> >> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 07, 2012 11:31 PM >> *Subject:* Re: LF: 475 khz WSPR and VLF >> >> GE/GM LF/MF :-) >> >> Thanks to all the many MF stations who reported to my WSPR beacon. >> There were 54 stations since yesterdays evening, attached below. >> >> Just came back from the club meeting where i hold my presentation >> of the VLF experiments done in 2010/2011. The OMs were very >> interested and amazed. There was _silence_ during that time i told >> to them :-) Again big thanks to this group, who is a big part of >> the Dreamers Band stuff :-) >> >> I didn't find the time to stop the TX here in the shack so i am on >> air in [...] Content analysis details: (-1.1 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [80.202.8.16 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.4 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain X-Scan-Signature: ce3df9f2acd7587159138e0455ceb9aa Subject: Re: LF: 475 khz WSPR and VLF Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-transfer-encoding: QUOTED-PRINTABLE X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.8 required=5.0 tests=AMATEUR_PORN autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60d6509bcf22436d X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Your patience impresses me Stefan. LA5VNA Steinar loc:JO59jq Mal and spam filtering: STRONG www.opera.no Den 08.11.2012 16:02, skrev Stefan Sch=E4fer: >=20 > Am 08.11.2012 15:48, schrieb mal hamilton: >> Stefan >> 54 machines listening to each other and not a Real Operator about. >> This is a good example of Appliance Operator activities. This is n= ot >> Real Amateur radio, there is no personal touch. Leave your machine >> unattended and hope for the best when you return from a night out = or >> get up in the morning. >=20 >> Is the the future for MF?? > No, the future is for CW! :-) If CW dies out then the whole amateur > radio dies out. It would not take to long then because CW never bec= omes > boring. It is fascinating to experience to listen and to instantly > "decode" the dashes and dots. It's like listening to music. > However in digimodes, there always has to be a new mode, each few > months. You know that, i know that, we know that. So don't worry! >=20 > Anyway, there is no reason not to transmit on a ready to use antenn= a > while beeing outside the shack. This helps to move some interest fr= om HF > to MF and to generate newcomers and so on. Also it is interesting t= o see > what is possible and to see who is on the band (or who's PC is on t= he > band if you prefer that). >=20 > 73, Stefan/DK7FC >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >=20 >> g3kev >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* Stefan Sch=E4fer >> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> >> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 07, 2012 11:31 PM >> *Subject:* Re: LF: 475 khz WSPR and VLF >> >> GE/GM LF/MF :-) >> >> Thanks to all the many MF stations who reported to my WSPR bea= con. >> There were 54 stations since yesterdays evening, attached belo= w. >> >> Just came back from the club meeting where i hold my presentat= ion >> of the VLF experiments done in 2010/2011. The OMs were very >> interested and amazed. There was _silence_ during that time i = told >> to them :-) Again big thanks to this group, who is a big part = of >> the Dreamers Band stuff :-) >> >> I didn't find the time to stop the TX here in the shack so i a= m on >> air in WSPR since yesterdays evening :-) Guess i'll stop it so= on. >> >> 73, GN, Stefan/DK7FC >> >> >> Timestamp Call MHz SNR Drift Grid Pwr = =20 >> Reporter RGrid km az >> 2012-11-07 22:54 DK7FC 0.475761 -10 0 = =20 >> JN49ik 1 >> LA5VNA JO59jq 1147 6 >> 2012-11-07 21:06 DK7FC 0.475692 -26 0 = =20 >> JN49ik 1 >> PA2RF JO22gb 414 316 >> 2012-11-07 20:48 DK7FC 0.475762 +14 0 = =20 >> JN49ik 1 >> MICHAEL JN49bf 48 241 >> 2012-11-07 20:18 DK7FC 0.475740 -3 0 = =20 >> JN49ik 1 >> PE5E JO33eh 460 340 >> 2012-11-07 19:54 DK7FC 0.475762 -8 0 = =20 >> JN49ik 1 >> F4DTL JN18fp 464 261 >> 2012-11-07 19:00 DK7FC 0.475761 -4 0 = =20 >> JN49ik 1 >> LA4ANA JO59cu 1162 4 >> 2012-11-07 16:48 DK7FC 0.475762 -3 0 = =20 >> JN49ik 1 >> G8HUH IO81mg 851 288 >> 2012-11-07 07:06 DK7FC 0.475752 -7 0 = =20 >> JN49ik 1 >> DF2JP JO31jg 245 327 >> 2012-11-07 06:12 DK7FC 0.475762 -27 0 = =20 >> JN49ik 1 >> DL8YCA JO31or 276 338 >> 2012-11-07 01:24 DK7FC 0.475762 -26 0 = =20 >> JN49ik 1 >> WE2XGR/2 FN31ls 6099 295 >> 2012-11-07 00:48 DK7FC 0.475761 -26 0 = =20 >> JN49ik 1 >> WG2XKA FN33ir 5983 298 >> 2012-11-06 23:42 DK7FC 0.475761 +11 0 = =20 >> JN49ik 1 >> PA3ABK/47 JO21it 386 315 >> 2012-11-06 23:42 DK7FC 0.475762 +3 0 = =20 >> JN49ik 1 >> GM4SLV IP90gg 1366 336 >> 2012-11-06 23:42 DK7FC 0.475762 +3 0 = =20 >> JN49ik 1 >> OR7T JO20ix 332 303 >> 2012-11-06 23:36 DK7FC 0.475750 -11 0 = =20 >> JN49ik 1 >> SM6BHZ JO57wq 941 12 >> 2012-11-06 23:00 DK7FC 0.475762 -3 0 = =20 >> JN49ik 1 >> IK1WVQ JN44cb 599 184 >> 2012-11-06 23:00 DK7FC 0.475762 -18 0 = =20 >> JN49ik 1 >> G0MJI IO83ni 913 303 >> 2012-11-06 23:00 DK7FC 0.475762 +3 0 = =20 >> JN49ik 1 >> OH1LSQ KP03td 1713 22 >> 2012-11-06 23:00 DK7FC 0.475762 +5 0 = =20 >> JN49ik 1 >> DF6NM JN59nj 175 91 >> 2012-11-06 23:00 DK7FC 0.475762 -7 0 = =20 >> JN49ik 1 >> SV2DCD KN00pl 1401 131 >> 2012-11-06 23:00 DK7FC 0.475762 -13 0 = =20 >> JN49ik 1 >> PA0O JO33hg 450 342 >> 2012-11-06 23:00 DK7FC 0.477262 -8 0 = =20 >> JN49ik 1 >> SV8CS KM07js 1617 139 >> 2012-11-06 23:00 DK7FC 0.478562 -9 0 = =20 >> JN49ik 1 >> DL1DAM JO31tn 248 342 >> 2012-11-06 23:00 DK7FC 0.475766 -3 0 = =20 >> JN49ik 1 >> DG3LV JO53gv 512 14 >> 2012-11-06 22:54 DK7FC 0.475761 -15 0 = =20 >> JN49ik 1 >> G3XBM JO02dg 669 301 >> 2012-11-06 22:54 DK7FC 0.475760 -19 0 = =20 >> JN49ik 1 >> R3LW KO54mq 1626 60 >> 2012-11-06 22:54 DK7FC 0.475762 +8 0 = =20 >> JN49ik 1 >> F5WK JN18hp 452 261 >> 2012-11-06 22:48 DK7FC 0.475762 -17 0 = =20 >> JN49ik 1 >> G6AVK JO01ho 620 296 >> 2012-11-06 22:36 DK7FC 0.475763 -3 0 = =20 >> JN49ik 1 >> G0KTN IO81ti 813 289 >> 2012-11-06 22:30 DK7FC 0.475762 -7 0 = =20 >> JN49ik 1 >> PA3FNY JO22nc 389 321 >> 2012-11-06 22:24 DK7FC 0.475761 -24 0 = =20 >> JN49ik 1 >> WD2XSH/17 FN42pb 5927 294 >> 2012-11-06 22:24 DK7FC 0.475762 -9 0 = =20 >> JN49ik 1 >> G3WCB IO91rm 694 293 >> 2012-11-06 22:18 DK7FC 0.475762 -12 0 = =20 >> JN49ik 1 >> DL4YHF JO42fd 302 357 >> 2012-11-06 21:42 DK7FC 0.475789 -1 -1 = =20 >> JN49ik 1 >> DK6NI JN59ln 163 84 >> 2012-11-06 21:24 DK7FC 0.501562 +5 0 = =20 >> JN49ik 1 >> M0PPP IO93gm 837 307 >> 2012-11-06 20:42 DK7FC 0.475762 -24 0 = =20 >> JN49ik 1 >> DD7PC JN49ax 77 322 >> 2012-11-06 20:36 DK7FC 0.501562 +2 0 = =20 >> JN49ik 1 >> M0PAF IO93gm 837 307 >> 2012-11-06 20:06 DK7FC 0.475762 -12 0 = =20 >> JN49ik 1 >> LA3JJ JO59bh 1102 4 >> 2012-11-06 20:06 DK7FC 0.475669 -3 0 = =20 >> JN49ik 1 >> DL8WX JO30we 103 325 >> 2012-11-06 19:54 DK7FC 0.475761 -24 0 = =20 >> JN49ik 1 >> RX3DHR KO94ks 2125 62 >> 2012-11-06 19:36 DK7FC 0.475762 +5 0 = =20 >> JN49ik 1 >> DJ7KA JO61pb 373 59 >> 2012-11-06 19:36 DK7FC 0.475764 +13 0 = =20 >> JN49ik 1 >> DF8UO JN48ex 56 206 >> 2012-11-06 19:36 DK7FC 0.475762 +8 0 = =20 >> JN49ik 1 >> PI4THT JO32kf 336 338 >> 2012-11-06 19:36 DK7FC 0.475761 +11 0 = =20 >> JN49ik 1 >> DL1DBC JO41bi 217 349 >> 2012-11-06 18:42 DK7FC 0.475761 +7 0 = =20 >> JN49ik 1 >> F59706 JN07th 574 248 >> 2012-11-06 18:42 DK7FC 0.475704 -18 1 = =20 >> JN49ik 1 >> DD5CF JO30nq 179 321 >> 2012-11-06 18:30 DK7FC 0.475762 +6 0 = =20 >> JN49ik 1 >> DF1VB JO31sk 237 340 >> 2012-11-06 18:24 DK7FC 0.475762 -21 0 = =20 >> JN49ik 1 >> G4CAO IO91si 683 292 >> 2012-11-06 18:18 DK7FC 0.475767 -1 0 = =20 >> JN49ik 1 >> G3XVL JO02nb 608 302 >> 2012-11-06 18:00 DK7FC 0.475761 +11 0 = =20 >> JN49ik 1 >> F6CNI JN19qb 389 266 >> 2012-11-06 17:54 DK7FC 0.475762 +9 0 = =20 >> JN49ik 1 >> DJ8WX JO43sv 499 6 >> 2012-11-06 17:36 DK7FC 0.475660 +2 0 = =20 >> JN49ik 1 >> DF2LS JO53dr 490 12 >> 2012-11-06 16:48 DK7FC 0.475644 -12 0 = =20 >> JN49ik 1 >> DG1LHM JO53hr 495 15 >> 2012-11-06 16:30 DK7FC 0.475642 -22 0 = =20 >> JN49ik 1 >> DL3ZID JO53po 497 20 >> >> >=20