Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mk03.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 1F7DF38000082; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 12:55:23 -0500 (EST) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1TVQsK-0003QT-3Y for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2012 17:54:16 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1TVQsJ-0003QK-DY for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2012 17:54:15 +0000 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.100.212]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1TVQsG-00068E-El for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 05 Nov 2012 17:54:14 +0000 Received: from freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de (freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.29.204]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id qA5HsARF020737 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 18:54:10 +0100 Received: from [129.206.22.206] (pc206.iup.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.22.206]) by freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.11.20060308/8.11.2) with ESMTP id qA5HsAIi010879 for ; Mon, 5 Nov 2012 18:54:10 +0100 Message-ID: <5097FD3B.7060105@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Mon, 05 Nov 2012 18:54:03 +0100 From: =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Stefan_Sch=E4fer?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Aaaaaaah, very interesting! OK, that explains much :-) The loss is probably more than 3 dB then :-) I was receiving several decodes of SM6BHZ on 630m during the 10 minute gaps ;-) Thanks and 73! Stefan [...] Content analysis details: (-1.1 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [129.206.100.212 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.4 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: 6d05203b0dc31085ea7fa8b214773e41 Subject: Re: LF: AW: JT-5 for TA DX? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------010606050909040500050708" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_FONT_BIG, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d61875097fd8a14b4 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010606050909040500050708 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by relay.uni-heidelberg.de id qA5HsARF020737 Aaaaaaah, very interesting! OK, that explains much :-) The loss is=20 probably more than 3 dB then :-) I was receiving several decodes of SM6BHZ on 630m during the 10 minute=20 gaps ;-) Thanks and 73! Stefan Am 05.11.2012 17:58, schrieb Joe: > > Hi Stefan, > > Investigating my JT9- and OPERA Log I found that I was transmitting=20 > OP32 on 136.576 kHz during reception of your JT9-10 100hz transmissions= : > > 2250 10 -7 0.4 1433.06 0.00 DK7FC JN49IK > > 22:57 136 DF2JP de GW0EZY Op32 711 km -20 dB in Welshpool > > 0050 10 -4 0.9 1433.06 0.00 DK7FC JN49IK > > 00:36 136 DF2JP de RN3AGC Op32 2074 km -38 dB in Moscow > > 0230 10 -6 0.9 1433.06 0.00 DK7FC JN49IK > > 02:16 136 DF2JP de G3XDV Op32 487 km -21 dB in Welwyn > > 0330 10 -4 0.9 1433.06 0.00 DK7FC JN49IK > > 03:56 136 DF2JP de G0KTN Op32 636 km -35 dB in Bath > > 0530 10 -7 0.0 1433.06 0.00 DK7FC JN49IK > > 05:36 136 DF2JP de G3XDV Op32 487 km -26 dB in Welwyn > > This may have dropped your SNR. > > Impressive that your signal was decoded 130Hz beside my 250mW TX Signal. > > 73 Joe > > *DF2JP* > > -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- > Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Stefan Sch=E4= fer > Gesendet: Montag, 5. November 2012 16:47 > An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Cc: Joe Taylor > Betreff: Re: LF: AW: JT-5 for TA DX? > > Hello Joe and Joe, > > Thank you for watching! The reports appear at least 10 dB to low, right= ? > > Someone from across the pond? I also got a single report from UA0SNV in > > OO17, 5750 km distance, http://dl.dropbox.com/u/76751319/dk7fc_jt9_10.J= PG. > > But it was only a single decode at -30 dB SNR. I bet i could do it in > > OP8 as well! So something must still be wrong here... > > I will ask him for wav files and about PC time locking... > > 73, Stefan/DK7FC > > Am 05.11.2012 07:59, schrieb Joe: > > > Hi Stefan, > > > > > > Last night decodings in JT9-10 > > > > > > 2250 10 -7 0.4 1433.06 0.00 DK7FC JN49IK > > > 2330 10 -10 0.4 1433.06 0.00 DK7FC JN49IK > > > 2340 10 -8 1.3 1436.06 0.00 PA0A JO33 > > > 0050 10 -4 0.9 1433.06 0.00 DK7FC JN49IK > > > 0110 10 -5 0.9 1433.06 0.00 DK7FC JN49IK > > > 0130 10 -3 0.9 1433.06 0.00 DK7FC JN49IK > > > 0150 10 -6 1.3 1433.06 0.00 DK7FC JN49IK > > > 0230 10 -6 0.9 1433.06 0.00 DK7FC JN49IK > > > 0310 10 -5 0.9 1433.06 0.00 DK7FC JN49IK > > > 0330 10 -4 0.9 1433.06 0.00 DK7FC JN49IK > > > 0350 10 -4 0.9 1433.06 0.00 DK7FC JN49IK > > > 0410 10 -5 0.9 1433.06 0.00 DK7FC JN49IK > > > 0450 10 -5 0.9 1433.06 0.00 DK7FC JN49IK > > > 0530 10 -7 0.0 1433.06 0.00 DK7FC JN49IK > > > 0550 10 -11 0.4 1433.06 0.00 DK7FC JN49IK > > > 0610 10 -10 0.4 1433.06 0.00 DK7FC JN49IK > > > > > > 73 Joe > > > DF2JP > > > > > > > > > -----Urspr=FCngliche Nachricht----- > > > Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Stefan Sch= =E4fer > > > Gesendet: Sonntag, 4. November 2012 23:08 > > > An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > > > Cc: Vasily Savchenko > > > Betreff: LF: JT-5 for TA DX? > > > > > > LF! > > > > > > I loved the MF weekend but now its late and the antenna is resonated = to > > > LF. I will give it a try in JT9-10 now, hoping to finally make a 5000= + > > > distance on 137 kHz, which was no problem in WSPR-8. > > > > > > QRG is 137.44 kHz > > > > > > Will someone give it a try? Reports apprechiated. Starting now! > > > > > > 73, Stefan/DK7FC > > > > > > > > > > --------------010606050909040500050708 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Aaaaaaah, very interesting! OK, that explains much :-) The loss is probably more than 3 dB then :-)
I was receiving several decodes of SM6BHZ on 630m during the 10 minute gaps ;-)

Thanks and 73!

Stefan


Am 05.11.2012 17:58, schrieb Joe:

Hi Stefan,

 

Investigating my JT9- and OPERA Log I found that I was transmitting OP32 on 136.576 kHz during reception of your JT9-10 100hz transmissions:

 

2250  10   -7   0.4 1433.06  0.00   DK7FC JN49IK 

22:57    136 DF2JP de GW0EZY Op32 711 km -20 dB in Welshpool

 

0050  10   -4   0.9 1433.06  0.00   DK7FC JN49IK

00:36    136 DF2JP de RN3AGC Op32 2074 km -38 dB in Moscow

 

0230  10   -6   0.9 1433.06  0.00   DK7FC JN49IK

02:16    136 DF2JP de G3XDV Op32 487 km -21 dB in Welwyn

 

0330  10   -4   0.9 1433.06  0.00   DK7FC JN49IK

03:56    136 DF2JP de G0KTN Op32 636 km -35 dB in Bath

 

0530  10   -7   0.0 1433.06  0.00   DK7FC JN49IK

05:36    136 DF2JP de G3XDV Op32 487 km -26 dB in Welwyn

 

This may have dropped your SNR.

Impressive that your signal was decoded 130Hz beside my 250mW TX Signal.

 

73 Joe

DF2JP

 

 

 

 

 

 

-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Stefan Schäfer
Gesendet: Montag, 5. November 2012 16:47
An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Cc: Joe Taylor
Betreff: Re: LF: AW: JT-5 for TA DX?

 

Hello Joe and Joe,

 

Thank you for watching! The reports appear at least 10 dB to low, right?

 

Someone from across the pond? I also got a single report from UA0SNV in

OO17, 5750 km distance, http://dl.dropbox.com/u/76751319/dk7fc_jt9_10.JPG.

But it was only a single decode at -30 dB SNR. I bet i could do it in

OP8 as well! So something must still be wrong here...

 

I will ask him for wav files and about PC time locking...

 

73, Stefan/DK7FC

 

 

 

 

Am 05.11.2012 07:59, schrieb Joe:

> Hi Stefan,

> 

> Last night decodings in JT9-10

> 

> 2250  10   -7   0.4 1433.06  0.00   DK7FC JN49IK

> 2330  10  -10   0.4 1433.06  0.00   DK7FC JN49IK

> 2340  10   -8   1.3 1436.06  0.00   PA0A JO33

> 0050  10   -4   0.9 1433.06  0.00   DK7FC JN49IK

> 0110  10   -5   0.9 1433.06  0.00   DK7FC JN49IK

> 0130  10   -3   0.9 1433.06  0.00   DK7FC JN49IK

> 0150  10   -6   1.3 1433.06  0.00   DK7FC JN49IK

> 0230  10   -6   0.9 1433.06  0.00   DK7FC JN49IK

> 0310  10   -5   0.9 1433.06  0.00   DK7FC JN49IK

> 0330  10   -4   0.9 1433.06  0.00   DK7FC JN49IK

> 0350  10   -4   0.9 1433.06  0.00   DK7FC JN49IK

> 0410  10   -5   0.9 1433.06  0.00   DK7FC JN49IK

> 0450  10   -5   0.9 1433.06  0.00   DK7FC JN49IK

> 0530  10   -7   0.0 1433.06  0.00   DK7FC JN49IK

> 0550  10  -11   0.4 1433.06  0.00   DK7FC JN49IK

> 0610  10  -10   0.4 1433.06  0.00   DK7FC JN49IK

> 

> 73 Joe

> DF2JP

> 

> 

> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----

> Von: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] Im Auftrag von Stefan Schäfer

> Gesendet: Sonntag, 4. November 2012 23:08

> An: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org

> Cc: Vasily Savchenko

> Betreff: LF: JT-5 for TA DX?

> 

> LF!

> 

> I loved the MF weekend but now its late and the antenna is resonated to

> LF. I will give it a try in JT9-10 now, hoping to finally make a 5000+

> distance on 137 kHz, which was no problem in WSPR-8.

> 

> QRG is 137.44 kHz

> 

> Will someone give it a try? Reports apprechiated. Starting now!

> 

> 73, Stefan/DK7FC

> 

> 

>   

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