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Content preview: Joe, Can you confirm the latest version is 01r2695.exe please? 73s Roger G3XBM [...] Content analysis details: (-0.7 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [209.85.214.43 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (rogerlapthorn[at]gmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: b45446db24846e84db90eb694609e205 Subject: Re: LF: JT9 buggy issues Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary=00151750e552c2fc8c04cd23f9fa X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mtain-dk03.r1000.mx.aol.com ; domain : gmail.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1db407508d8f5b4770 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none --00151750e552c2fc8c04cd23f9fa Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Joe, Can you confirm the latest version is 01r2695.exe please? 73s Roger G3XBM On 28 October 2012 19:25, Joe Taylor wrote: > Hi Roger, > > > After about 1 minute or so, the program just closes itself and disappears >> from the PC screen. >> > > Please open a command-prompt window and start the program from there. For > example, > > C:\> cd \wsjtx > C:\> wsjtx > > When the program dies, send me any error message left in the > command-prompt window. > > > I am using a SignalLink VOX controlled sound card interface that I use for >> WSPR. Also, when I reload the program I have to reload my callsign, grid >> etc.every time. >> > > This makes it sound like you may have ignored the installation advice in > the Quick-Start Guide: "Under Vista or Windows 7 be sure to install WSJT-X > into its own directory (the suggested default is c:\wsjtx) rather than > C:\Program Files\wsjtx." Please confirm. > > > Although I very much hope to use the mode for QSOs please do not >> underestimate the value of a weak signal beaconing function with an >> internet database. This has proved extremely valuable on WSPR as people >> sometimes leave a RX and PC running to monitor when they are busy and not >> available for QSOs. There will be far more people able to receive and >> report than TX on MF/LF. This is especially true on 136kHz. >> > > Yes, I understand these points, and beacons have their place. WSPR would > not be there if I did not believe this. > > The question in my mind is the degree to which beacon-like features should > be mixed with a mode designed for making QSOs. If beaconing behavior is > desired, why not use WSPR? If it's important to have, say, 10 dB better > sensitivity than WSPR, then maybe a "slow WSPR" mode should be developed > and used, rather than JT9. > > -- 73, Joe, K1JT > > -- http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk https://sites.google.com/site/sub9khz/ http://qss2.blogspot.com/ --00151750e552c2fc8c04cd23f9fa Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Joe,

Can you confirm the latest version is 01r2695.exe please?
73s
Roger G3XBM

On 28 October 2012 1= 9:25, Joe Taylor <joe@princeton.edu> wrote:
Hi Roger,


After about 1 minute or so, the program just closes itself and disappears from the PC screen.

Please open a command-prompt window and start the program from there. For e= xample,

C:\> cd \wsjtx
C:\> wsjtx

When the program dies, send me any error message left in the command-prompt= window.


I am using a SignalLink VOX controlled sound card interface that I use for<= br> WSPR. Also, when I reload the program I have to reload my callsign, grid etc.every time.

This makes it sound like you may have ignored the installation advice in th= e Quick-Start Guide: "Under Vista or Windows 7 be sure to install WSJT= -X into its own directory (the suggested default is c:\wsjtx) rather than C= :\Program Files\wsjtx." =A0Please confirm.


Although I very much hope to use the mode for QSOs please do not
underestimate the value of a weak signal beaconing function with an
internet database. This has proved extremely valuable on WSPR as people
sometimes leave a RX and PC running to monitor when they are busy and not available for QSOs. There will be far more people able to receive and
report than TX on MF/LF. This is especially true on 136kHz.

Yes, I understand these points, and beacons have their place. =A0WSPR would= not be there if I did not believe this.

The question in my mind is the degree to which beacon-like features should = be mixed with a mode designed for making QSOs. =A0If beaconing behavior is = desired, why not use WSPR? =A0If it's important to have, say, 10 dB bet= ter sensitivity than WSPR, then maybe a "slow WSPR" mode should b= e developed and used, rather than JT9.

=A0 =A0 =A0 =A0 -- 73, Joe, K1JT




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=A0http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
https://sites.google.com/site/sub9khz/
http://qss2.blogspot.com/

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