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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Markus - can you define a descrete freq that you would be consider the best s/n in Europe for me to plop a carrier on for XPQ measurement? Still some way but Im happy with the coherent nature of the GPS derived signal source for the Decca driver. The source will be the HP3336b GPS 10MHz ref'd Laurence KL1X AlaskaFrom: Sun, 2 Sep 2012 18:15:18 +0200 Subject: Re: LF: WE2XPQ 137.7752, DCF39 appears [...] Content analysis details: (-2.1 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [65.55.116.43 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (hellozerohellozero[at]hotmail.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -2.1 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: 96c1546db5321e0e52b4c66d17932f07 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="_2188ee95-9789-4468-b07d-7ef1914e6fb4_" Subject: LF: Ref Markus XPQ microHz X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD,HTML_30_40, HTML_MESSAGE,TO_ADDRESS_EQ_REAL autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d4092506b5bdb6087 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none --_2188ee95-9789-4468-b07d-7ef1914e6fb4_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Markus - can you define a descrete freq that you would be consider the bes= t s/n in Europe for me to plop a carrier on for XPQ measurement? Still som= e way but Im happy with the coherent nature of the GPS derived signal sourc= e for the Decca driver. The source will be the HP3336b GPS 10MHz ref'd Laur= ence KL1X AlaskaFrom: markusvester@aol.com To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org CC: rsgb_lf_group@yahoogroups.co.uk Date: Sun=2C 2 Sep 2012 18:15:18 +0200 Subject: Re: LF: WE2XPQ 137.7752=2C DCF39 appears Laurence=2C=20 =20 I'd be interested to see whether XPQ could be=20 detected in a microHz spectrogram here=2C either on Chris' grabber=20 in Bucharest http://qsl.net/4x1rf/yo/lfgrabber.htm or mine in Nuernberg. Can you give your exact=20 frequency=2C and could you transmit a stable uninterrupted carrier for a co= uple of=20 hours? We've been seeing narrow traces from US East coast stations=20 before=2C but I wonder how much effect transpolar Doppler could=20 have. =20 Is DCF-39 really as strong as 25 dB in 100=20 Hz=2C ie. 45 dB/Hz=2C or would that be in 0.1 Hz? What are the best=20 hours? =20 Best 73=2C Markus (DF6NM) =20 From: Laurence KL7UK=20 Sent: Sunday=2C September 02=2C 2012 4:21 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: DCF39 appears Nice to see DCF39 appearing on QRSS this evening over the Pole. Ive=20 not seen it since Spring here in Alaska. About 25dB noise in 100Hz (ish uni= ts).=20 Not dark yet either=2C Laurence KL1X WE2XPQ Wasilla AK From: Laurence=20 KL7UK=20 Sent: Sunday=2C September 02=2C 2012 2:17 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 =3B lowfer@mailman.qth.net=20 Subject: LF: XPQ Further testing on 137.7752 ish carrier only ongoing - still in=20 shakedown mode but sweeps of individual 400w Modules show the same resonanc= e and=20 output parameters from 2005 :-) http://kl7uk.com/XPQ2.jpg Set=20 up in garage. Laurence We2xpq KL1X Wasilla Alaska From: Laurence=20 KL7UK=20 Sent: Thursday=2C August 30=2C 2012 6:34 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 =3B lowfer@mailman.qth.net=20 Subject: LF: WE2XPQ 137.7752 A little bit of Nostalgia - WE2XPQ Wasilla Alaska is very=20 intermittently testing on 137.7752 DFCW various speeds and the odd bit of=20 QRSS - Power will be up to 2W ERP but is to be confirmed.=20 =20 Periods of operations=2C modes and powers will vary as Im trying to=20 remember all the ins and outs of why I installed 'X" relay to do a "Y" func= tion=20 as its been 7 years or so. =20 Transmitter for the moment is the=20 Decca 5501=2C drivers are FT817 h/b transverter=2C Loop with around 100m=20 circumference at 50ft or so and phase meter. The Birch trees bend a lot mor= e=20 than the OKie Cottonwoods so not sure how much detuning will happen as=20 thing become more slack or as the trees become snow laden -=20 =20 Laurence We2xpq KL1X Wasilla Palmer Alaska=20 BP51IP = --_2188ee95-9789-4468-b07d-7ef1914e6fb4_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

 =3BMarkus - can you define a descrete freq that you would be consi= der the best s/n in Europe for me to plop a carrier on for XPQ measurement?=
 =3B
Still some way but Im happy with the coherent nature of th= e GPS derived signal source for the Decca driver. The source will be the HP= 3336b GPS 10MHz ref'd
 =3B
Laurence KL1X Alaska
From: markusvester@a= ol.com
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
CC: rsgb_lf_group@yahoogroups= .co.uk
Date: Sun=2C 2 Sep 2012 18:15:18 +0200
Subject: Re: LF: WE2XPQ= 137.7752=2C DCF39 appears

Laurence=2C
 =3B
I'd be interested to see whether XPQ could be=20 detected =3Bin a microHz spectrogram here=2C either on Chris' grabber=20 in =3BBucharest
or mine in Nuernberg. =3BCan you give =3B= your exact=20 frequency=2C and could you transmit a stable uninterrupted carrier for a co= uple of=20 hours? We've been seeing =3Bnarrow traces from =3BUS East coast sta= tions=20 before=2C =3Bbut I wonder =3Bhow much effect =3Btranspolar Dopp= ler could=20 have.
 =3B
Is DCF-39 =3Breally as strong as 25 dB in 100= =20 Hz=2C =3Bie. 45 dB/Hz=2C or would that be =3Bin 0.1 Hz? What are th= e =3Bbest=20 hours?
 =3B
Best 73=2C
Markus (DF6NM)
 = =3B

Sent: Sunday=2C September 02=2C 2012 4:21 AM
Subject: LF: DCF39 appears

Nice to see DCF39 appearing on QRSS this evening over the = Pole. Ive=20 not seen it since Spring here in Alaska. About 25dB noise in 100Hz (ish uni= ts).=20 Not dark yet either=2C

Laurence KL1X WE2XPQ Wasilla AK
Sent: Sunday=2C September 02=2C 2012 2:17 AM
Subject: LF: XPQ

Further testing on 137.7752 ish carrier only ongoing - sti= ll in=20 shakedown mode but sweeps of individual 400w Modules show the same resonanc= e and=20 output parameters from 2005 :-)

http:= //kl7uk.com/XPQ2.jpg

Set=20 up in garage.

Laurence We2xpq =3B KL1X Wasilla Alaska

Sent: Thursday=2C August 30=2C 2012 6:34 PM
Subject: LF: WE2XPQ 137.7752


A little bit of Nostalgia - WE2XPQ Wasilla Alaska is v= ery=20 intermittently =3Btesting on 137.7752 DFCW various speeds and the odd b= it of=20 QRSS - Power will be up to =3B2W ERP but is to be confirmed.=20
 =3B
Periods of operations=2C modes and powers will vary as Im t= rying to=20 remember all the ins and outs of why I installed 'X" relay to do a "Y" func= tion=20 as its been 7 years or so.
 =3B
Transmitter for the moment = =3Bis the=20 Decca 5501=2C drivers are FT817 h/b transverter=2C Loop with around 100m=20 circumference at 50ft or so and phase meter. The Birch trees bend a lot mor= e=20 than the OKie Cottonwoods =3Bso not sure how much detuning will happen = as=20 thing become more slack or as the trees become snow laden -=20
 =3B
Laurence We2xpq KL1X Wasilla Palmer Alaska=20 BP51IP
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