Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dd03.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 985B738000085; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 19:40:41 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1TScSU-00027e-79 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 23:39:58 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1TScST-00027V-MF for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 23:39:57 +0000 Received: from imr-ma06.mx.aol.com ([64.12.78.142]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1TScSR-0004bw-Jr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 23:39:56 +0000 Received: from mtaout-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaout-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.41.5]) by imr-ma06.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q9SNdktW028150 for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 19:39:46 -0400 Received: from White (nrbg-4d07413b.pool.mediaWays.net [77.7.65.59]) by mtaout-ma05.r1000.mx.aol.com (MUA/Third Party Client Interface) with ESMTPA id 8E35CE00014B for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 19:39:45 -0400 (EDT) Message-ID: <99D10C7F6D63477EB157A76D7979F740@White> From: "Markus Vester" To: References: <508D47B2.8060209@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <46A9A1D9FC954A658216B197782524BF@White> <891CD59233F844C283BAC09A2AAA04BA@White> <508D6A9D.4020600@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <508D6C1A.7050607@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <508D8084.6020501@freenet.de> <508D8295.8010604@broadpark.no> <508D84F0.1000706@freenet.de> <508DBE08.6070302@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Mon, 29 Oct 2012 00:39:44 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 12.0.1606 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V12.0.1606 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1351467586; bh=rVAK9bvbfzp5ml4xinVajs6Y8IgQd6qzeFZs6mngCAc=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-ID:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=WAiQ3I5WJhOlxBgDer/tGbcKv0Tj77gncXLbkW+QxXV9CzE76kiWRIeRi1rtrz8gu oPdx41SBwWY2fJ6K9qj7ZaF7egeMLzovcBf5XNPCgUmNo6yUmCQF6/8v9yqpJntJdX XDYMrTLMb2ObT6ydgM77dEZUREirCr2xFNXMFxXo= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:412064960:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 X-Spam-Score: -0.6 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Stefan, five watts to a good antenna has been known to work wonders ;-) Actually virtual audio cable could possibly be the culprit. The newer version 4.xx can resample between different samplerates (12000 from wsjtx to 48000 for Speclab?), and may apply some smart interpolation which tries to keep the buffers at more or less constant length. This could indeed create some nondeterministic jitter, perturbing the MFSK demodulation. I have so far only used the older VAC 3 here, but this only works with identical samplerate and format at input and output. 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The newer = version 4.xx can resample between different samplerates (12000 from = wsjtx to 48000 for Speclab?), and may apply some smart interpolation = which tries to keep the buffers at more or less constant length. This = could indeed create some nondeterministic jitter, perturbing the MFSK = demodulation. I have so far only used the older VAC 3 here, but this = only works with identical samplerate and format at input and output. Best 73, Markus (DF6NM) From: Stefan Sch=E4fer=20 Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 12:21 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: no decodes, help needed Wolf, I am audible on LF with 5W TX power? That is 240 km (ish). Really? 73, Stefan Am 28.10.2012 20:18, schrieb wolf_dl4yhf: > > Am 28.10.2012 20:08, schrieb Steinar Aanesland: >> Wolf, The freq is still 136.000 + 1430Hz ? > Yes, WSJT-X reports 1430 Hz with the HF radio tuned to 136.000 kHz in=20 > USB. > > Transmitting every 2nd 2-minute interval. > > But I didn't get a decoded callsign for some time now. Sync points=20 > between 0 and 3. > Signal still audible here in JO42 . > > 73, Wolf . > >> LA5VNA Steinar >> loc:JO59jq >> Mal and spam filtering: STRONG >> www.opera.no >> >> > ------=_NextPart_000_0021_01CDB56D.E3E91B20 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Stefan,
 
five watts to a good antenna has been = known to work=20 wonders ;-)
 
Actually virtual = audio cable=20 could possibly be the culprit. The newer version 4.xx can resample = between=20 different samplerates (12000 from wsjtx to 48000 for Speclab?), and may = apply=20 some smart interpolation which tries to keep the buffers at = more or=20 less constant length. This could indeed create some nondeterministic = jitter,=20 perturbing the MFSK demodulation. I have so far only used the older VAC = 3 here,=20 but this only works with identical samplerate and format at = input and=20 output.
 
Best = 73,
Markus = (DF6NM)

From: Stefan = Sch=E4fer
Sent: Monday, October 29, 2012 12:21 AM
Subject: Re: LF: no decodes, help needed

Wolf,

I am audible on LF with 5W TX = power? That=20 is 240 km (ish). Really?

73, Stefan

Am 28.10.2012 20:18, = schrieb=20 wolf_dl4yhf:
>
> Am 28.10.2012 20:08, schrieb Steinar=20 Aanesland:
>> Wolf, The freq is still 136.000 + 1430Hz = ?
> Yes,=20 WSJT-X reports 1430 Hz with the HF radio tuned to 136.000 kHz in =
>=20 USB.
>
> Transmitting every 2nd 2-minute = interval.
>
>=20 But I didn't get a decoded callsign for some time now. Sync points =
>=20 between 0 and 3.
> Signal still audible here in JO42 = .
>
> 73,=20 Wolf .
>
>> LA5VNA Steinar
>> = loc:JO59jq
>> Mal=20 and spam filtering: STRONG
>> www.opera.no
>>
>>
= >

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