Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-me03.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 3BCF038000083; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 18:43:44 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1TSF5c-00041s-FE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 23:42:48 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1TSF5b-00041j-Oo for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 23:42:47 +0100 Received: from imr-da02.mx.aol.com ([205.188.105.144]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1TSF5Z-0004G8-4W for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 23:42:46 +0100 Received: from mtaomg-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.137]) by imr-da02.mx.aol.com (Outbound Mail Relay) with ESMTP id 5FDF81C000096 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 18:42:43 -0400 (EDT) Received: from core-dle003c.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-dle003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.166.137]) by mtaomg-da01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id 1962EE000081 for ; Sat, 27 Oct 2012 18:42:43 -0400 (EDT) References: <508C2AC9.3010109@broadpark.no><508C3D68.6020809@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <1CD1ED7C18E24EF1999E7C47A855EF7D@White> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <1CD1ED7C18E24EF1999E7C47A855EF7D@White> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI MIME-Version: 1.0 From: f4dtl@aol.com X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: AOL WebMail 37105 - STANDARD Received: from 86.67.115.243 by webmail-m018.sysops.aol.com (64.12.101.102) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 27 Oct 2012 18:42:42 -0400 Message-Id: <8CF82AB82C94FE0-1B70-42FC5@webmail-m018.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [86.67.115.243] Date: Sat, 27 Oct 2012 18:42:43 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1351377763; bh=uoGytmrBUVLCtv1Vei1jrW5eZJaqjtCFu8dInRd+Xpw=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=IUMEbK8vkeAKHweIXq7izaEwyum2sErRrNYSmEnqIPc4caYa/vILIriUnX5IaiOdj iYMviYKXQtx4sVPdvo5qqQoF5oUl/wCTJP3MZmz6p090QuegascREICUjmHeAsv7OM 3xqP+27HGVAuS7GQj2YSsuezLUf5w5xWOCtIvypQ= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:493324448:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 X-Spam-Score: 0.3 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: OK Markus good decodes here. F4DTL Nicolas -----E-mail d'origine----- De : Markus Vester A: rsgb_lf_group Envoyé le : Di, 28 Oct 2012 0:01 Sujet : Re: LF: JT9: A New Digital Mode for MF and LF [...] Content analysis details: (0.3 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [205.188.105.144 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (f4dtl[at]aol.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -0.7 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid 1.0 FREEMAIL_REPLY From and body contain different freemails X-Scan-Signature: ed9dcf4545ec97a65e50af1597e81212 Subject: Re : LF: JT9: A New Digital Mode for MF and LF Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CF82AB82D2D564_1B70_F9A5E_webmail-m018.sysops.aol.com" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_AOL_TAGS,HTML_30_40, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE,NO_REAL_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mtain-me03.r1000.mx.aol.com ; domain : mx.aol.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d608b508c63a045ed X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----------MB_8CF82AB82D2D564_1B70_F9A5E_webmail-m018.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" OK Markus good decodes here. F4DTL Nicolas -----E-mail d'origine----- De : Markus Vester A: rsgb_lf_group Envoy=C3=A9 le : Di, 28 Oct 2012 0:01 Sujet : Re: LF: JT9: A New Digital Mode for MF and LF Currently testing JT9-2 on 137420, transmitting during even 2-minute slots. =20 73, Markus (DF6NM) From: Roger Lapthorn=20 Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2012 10:26 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: JT9: A New Digital Mode for MF and LF This is exciting news being a 2-way mode, especially as it is 9-FSK, so doe= sn't need a linear PA. With bandwidths as small as 0.4Hz for the long versi= on, no-one will be complaining about how much bandwidth all this digital st= uff takes. Unlike OPERA, the software will be well documented and open sour= ce. There is a danger that, with too many digital modes now available, the acti= vity may be spread too thinly, a point Mal raised some time back I believe = Somehow though I suspect JT9 will rapidly become the de-facto digital mode = on 472kHz and 136kHz.=20 I hope that one of the internet databases - PSK Reporter I guess, or perhap= s an equivalent to WSPRnet - will be able to display JT9 activity as this w= as one of the great bonuses with WSPR beaconing. I may give it a go on 500kHz next week. 73s Roger G3XBM On 27 October 2012 21:00, Stefan Sch=C3=A4fer wrote: Oh, now Joe has lifted the secret ;-) He released the mode 2 days ago and a first update yesterday. Now it really gets complex which mode to choose. WSPR, Opera, JT9... But as a digital mode for LF i gues JT9-30 is the most promising at all. 73, Stefan/DK7FC --=20 http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ http://www.g3xbm.co.uk https://sites.google.com/site/sub9khz/ http://qss2.blogspot.com/ ----------MB_8CF82AB82D2D564_1B70_F9A5E_webmail-m018.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8"
OK Markus good decodes h= ere.
 
F4DTL Nicolas


= -----E-mail d'origine-----
De : Markus Vester <markusvester@aol.com>
A: rsgb_lf_group <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Envoy=C3=A9 le : Di, 28 Oct 2012 0:01
Sujet : Re: LF: JT9: A New Digital Mode for MF and LF

Currently testing JT9-2 on 137420, transmi= tting during even 2-minute slots.
 
73, Markus (DF6NM)

Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2012 10:26 PM
Subject: Re: LF: JT9: A New Digital Mode for MF and LF

This is exciting news being a 2-way mode, especially as it is 9-FSK, so doe= sn't need a linear PA. With bandwidths as small as 0.4Hz for the long versi= on, no-one will be complaining about how much bandwidth all this digital st= uff takes. Unlike OPERA, the software will be well documented and open sour= ce.

There is a danger that, with too many digital modes now available, the acti= vity may be spread too thinly, a point Mal raised some time back I believe = Somehow though I suspect JT9 will rapidly become the de-facto digital mode = on 472kHz and 136kHz.

I hope that one of the internet databases - PSK Reporter I guess, or perhap= s an equivalent to WSPRnet - will be able to display JT9 activity as this w= as one of the great bonuses with WSPR beaconing.

I may give it a go on 500kHz next week.

73s
Roger G3XBM


On 27 October 2012 21:00, Stefan Sch=C3=A4fer <Stefan.Schaefer@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> wrote:
Oh, now Joe has lifted the secret = ;-)
He released the mode 2 days ago and a first update yesterday.

Now it really gets complex which mode to choose. WSPR, Opera, JT9...
But as a digital mode for LF i gues JT9-30 is the most promising at all.
73, Stefan/DK7FC




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