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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Stefan,  that TA crossing is quite remarkable. I think XSH/17 is operated by Dave AA1A, who does have excellent MF ears. He was one of the early reporters of Walter's beacon DI2AG.  Well done both!  73, Markus (DF6NM)  [...] Content analysis details: (-2.1 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [205.188.91.97 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (markusvester[at]aol.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -2.1 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: fe104f0109b1b9777bcb4182b547ef25 Subject: Re: LF: log from wspring on 600m Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CF77728D038059_45C_E6229_webmail-m161.sysops.aol.com" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.8 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY, LINES_OF_YELLING,LINES_OF_YELLING_2 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mtain-dl02.r1000.mx.aol.com ; domain : mx.aol.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d4ad050798f8f311f X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----------MB_8CF77728D038059_45C_E6229_webmail-m161.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Stefan, =C2=A0 that TA crossing is quite remarkable. I think XSH/17 is operated by Dave AA= 1A, who does have excellent MF ears. He was one of the early reporters of W= alter's beacon=C2=A0DI2AG. =C2=A0 Well done both! =C2=A0 73,=20 Markus (DF6NM) =C2=A0 -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----=20 Von: Stefan Sch=C3=A4fer <Stefan.Schaefer@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> An: rsgb_lf_group <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> Verschickt: Sa, 13 Okt 2012 12:26 pm Betreff: Re: LF: log from wspring on 600m Hi Steinar,=20 Thanks for monitoring. It was an amazing activity, i've never seen so many transmit stations to th= e same time (10 or so). Best decode for me so far was=20 TimestampCallMHzSNRDriftGridPwrReporterRGridkmaz=C2=A02012-10-13 01:00=C2= =A0=C2=A0DK7FC=C2=A0=C2=A00.477201=C2=A0=C2=A0-28=C2=A0=C2=A00=C2=A0=C2=A0J= N49ik=C2=A0=C2=A01=C2=A0=C2=A0WD2XSH/17=C2=A0=C2=A0FN42pb=C2=A0=C2=A05927= =C2=A0=C2=A0294 Which is my first T/A crossing on MF :-) Probably much more would be possible in that sort of distance if we would h= ave the same TX/RX band :-/ I'll leave it running over this night again. Now the band is closed, my gra= bber background is black! Keep an eye open for DK0SWF this evening! 73, Stefan/DK7FC Am 13.10.2012 01:27, schrieb Steinar Aanesland:=20 Hi all=20 My RX WSPRing is on now. My am sorry, but I was not able to start earlier.= =20 Here is the first log.=20 2310 -15 -1.8=C2=A0=C2=A0 0.475753=C2=A0 0 DL3NDR JN59 27=20 2312 -22 -1.2=C2=A0=C2=A0 0.475629=C2=A0 0 DF6NM JN59 27=20 2312=C2=A0 -4 -1.4=C2=A0=C2=A0 0.475701=C2=A0 0 DK7FC JN49 30=20 2312 -26 -0.3=C2=A0=C2=A0 0.475769=C2=A0 0 DG3LV JO53 43=20 2316=C2=A0 -6 -1.1=C2=A0=C2=A0 0.475701=C2=A0 0 DK7FC JN49 30=20 2318 -23 -1.2=C2=A0=C2=A0 0.475629=C2=A0 0 DF6NM JN59 27=20 2320=C2=A0 -8 -0.7=C2=A0=C2=A0 0.475701=C2=A0 0 DK7FC JN49 30=20 2320 -19 -1.5=C2=A0=C2=A0 0.475753=C2=A0 0 DL3NDR JN59 27=20 2324 -10 -0.5=C2=A0=C2=A0 0.475701=C2=A0 0 DK7FC JN49 30=20 LA5VNA Steinar=20 loc:jo59jq=20 Malware filtering: strong=20 www.opera.no=20 PS: I still would like to make a wspr-60 experiment trying to receive from = a transmitter with reduced power, but then some of you have to do the TXing= ..=20 Den 12.10.2012 22:20, skrev Roland Bruestle:=20 Hello Steinar,=20 do you like to a test with slowWSPR?=20 We want to compare WSPR 2Min against SlowWSPR 8Min.=20 I thought we should do a start=C2=A0 test.=20 I'm transmitting normal WSPR and Slow WSPR-2 to the same time. This cane=20 seen with normal WSPR.=20 If this will be ok, than we know the transmision is ok.=20 After this I'm transmitting normal WSPR and Slow WSPR-8. Than we can see=20 the SNR change. My be -6dB.=20 I'm transmitting now:=20 normal WSPR on 47585Hz=20 Slow WSPR-2 on 47575Hz=20 Please listen if you are interested. Give me report.=20 Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe=20 Roland=20 Am 30.09.2012 22:53, schrieb Steinar Aanesland:=20 Great, I am looking forward to copy you in slowWSPR :)=20 I have plans to make my own transmitter, but until then I will stay=20 RXing .=20 La5vna=20 Den 30.09.2012 22:33, skrev Roland Bruestle:=20 Hi Steinar,=20 I'm on blacksheep.=20 Yes I'm interested on using wsper-8 or wspr-32.=20 I talked already with Markus. May bee he told this to you.=20 He gave me his soft ware. I have to install it now.=20 When I'm ready I will contact you via blacksheep.=20 I may take some days.=20 Roland=20 Am 30.09.2012 21:29, schrieb Steinar Aanesland:=20 I ma not sure if you are on blacksheep or yahoo so this goes to both=20 groups.=20 Have you considered using wsper-8 or wspr-32 on MF?=20 1912 -31 -0.5=C2=A0=C2=A0 0.501469=C2=A0 0 DG3LV JO53 43=20 1912 -21=C2=A0 0.9=C2=A0=C2=A0 0.501543=C2=A0 0 DL3NDR JN59 27=20 1914 -23=C2=A0 1.0=C2=A0=C2=A0 0.501543=C2=A0 0 DL3NDR JN59 27=20 1916 -23 -1.7=C2=A0=C2=A0 0.501543=C2=A0 0 DL3NDR JN59 27=20 1918 -26 -0.3=C2=A0=C2=A0 0.501469=C2=A0 0 DG3LV JO53 43=20 --=20 LA5VNA Steinar=20 loc:jo59jq=20 www.opera.no=20 ----------MB_8CF77728D038059_45C_E6229_webmail-m161.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8"
Stefan,
 
that TA crossing is quite remarkable. I think XSH/17 is operated by Da= ve AA1A, who does have excellent MF ears. He was one of the early reporters= of Walter's beacon DI2AG.
 
Well done both!
 
73,
Markus (DF6NM)
 

-----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----
Von: Stefan Sch=C3=A4fer <Stefan.Schaefer@iup.uni-heidelberg.de>
An: rsgb_lf_group <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Verschickt: Sa, 13 Okt 2012 12:26 pm
Betreff: Re: LF: log from wspring on 600m

Hi Steinar,

Thanks for monitoring.
It was an amazing activity, i've never seen so many transmit station= s to the same time (10 or so).

Best decode for me so far was
Timestamp Call MHz SNR Drift Grid Pwr Reporter RGrid km az
 2012-10-13 01:00   DK7FC   0.477201   -28   0   JN49ik   1   WD2XSH/17   FN42pb   5927   294

Which is my first T/A crossing on MF :-)

Probably much more would be possible in that sort of distance if we would h= ave the same TX/RX band :-/

I'll leave it running over this night again. Now the band is closed, my gra= bber background is black!

Keep an eye open for DK0SWF this evening!

73, Stefan/DK7FC


Am 13.10.2012 01:27, schrieb Steinar Aanesland:=20

Hi all

My RX WSPRing is on now. My am sorry, but I was not able to start earlier. =

Here is the first log.

2310 -15 -1.8   0.475753  0 DL3NDR JN59 27
2312 -22 -1.2   0.475629  0 DF6NM JN59 27
2312  -4 -1.4   0.475701  0 DK7FC JN49 30
2312 -26 -0.3   0.475769  0 DG3LV JO53 43
2316  -6 -1.1   0.475701  0 DK7FC JN49 30
2318 -23 -1.2   0.475629  0 DF6NM JN59 27
2320  -8 -0.7   0.475701  0 DK7FC JN49 30
2320 -19 -1.5   0.475753  0 DL3NDR JN59 27
2324 -10 -0.5   0.475701  0 DK7FC JN49 30

LA5VNA Steinar
loc:jo59jq
Malware filtering: strong
www.opera.no


PS: I still would like to make a wspr-60 experiment trying to receive from = a transmitter with reduced power, but then some of you have to do the TXing= ..








Den 12.10.2012 22:20, skrev Roland Bruestle:
Hello Steinar,
do you like to a test with slowWSPR?
We want to compare WSPR 2Min against SlowWSPR 8Min.
I thought we should do a start  test.
I'm transmitting normal WSPR and Slow WSPR-2 to the same time. This cane seen with normal WSPR.
If this will be ok, than we know the transmision is ok.
After this I'm transmitting normal WSPR and Slow WSPR-8. Than we can see the SNR change. My be -6dB.
I'm transmitting now:
normal WSPR on 47585Hz
Slow WSPR-2 on 47575Hz

Please listen if you are interested. Give me report.

Gr=C3=BC=C3=9Fe
Roland



Am 30.09.2012 22:53, schrieb Steinar Aanesland:
Great, I am looking forward to copy you in slowWS= PR :)

I have plans to make my own transmitter, but until then I will stay
RXing .

La5vna


Den 30.09.2012 22:33, skrev Roland Bruestle:
Hi Steinar,
I'm on blacksheep.
Yes I'm interested on using wsper-8 or wspr-32.
I talked already with Markus. May bee he told this to you.
He gave me his soft ware. I have to install it now.
When I'm ready I will contact you via blacksheep.
I may take some days.

Roland


Am 30.09.2012 21:29, schrieb Steinar Aanesland:
I ma not sure if you are on blacksheep or yahoo s= o this goes to both
groups.

Have you considered using wsper-8 or wspr-32 on MF?


1912 -31 -0.5   0.501469  0 DG3LV JO53 43
1912 -21  0.9   0.501543  0 DL3NDR JN59 27
1914 -23  1.0   0.501543  0 DL3NDR JN59 27
1916 -23 -1.7   0.501543  0 DL3NDR JN59 27
1918 -26 -0.3   0.501469  0 DG3LV JO53 43





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LA5VNA Steinar
loc:jo59jq
www.opera.no






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