Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mk06.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 1821E380000B5; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 13:59:31 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1TSX8L-0006gn-6u for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 17:58:49 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1TSX8K-0006gd-IS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 17:58:48 +0000 Received: from rhcavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be ([134.58.240.129] helo=cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1TSX8I-0002Nv-8p for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 17:58:47 +0000 X-KULeuven-Envelope-From: rik.strobbe@fys.kuleuven.be X-KULeuven-Scanned: Found to be clean X-KULeuven-ID: 8746713809A.A3EB2 X-KULeuven-Information: Katholieke Universiteit Leuven Received: from icts-p-smtps-2.cc.kuleuven.be (icts-p-smtps-2e.kulnet.kuleuven.be [134.58.240.34]) by cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTP id 8746713809A for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 18:58:44 +0100 (CET) Received: from ICTS-S-HUB3.luna.kuleuven.be (icts-s-hub3.luna.kuleuven.be [10.112.9.17]) (using TLSv1 with cipher AES128-SHA (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by icts-p-smtps-2.cc.kuleuven.be (Postfix) with ESMTPS id A613720041 for ; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 18:58:43 +0100 (CET) Received: from ICTS-S-MBX5.luna.kuleuven.be ([fe80::312b:f3bc:9c4:4ebb]) by ICTS-S-HUB3.luna.kuleuven.be ([fe80::a470:76b3:406d:2b1a%27]) with mapi id 14.02.0309.002; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 18:58:43 +0100 X-Kuleuven: This mail passed the K.U.Leuven mailcluster From: Rik Strobbe To: "rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org" Thread-Topic: LF: no decodes, help needed Thread-Index: AQHNtS/RmQd0Md+EbUiZUdR1t5+EpJfO52iAgAABxgCAABbUhQ== Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 17:58:42 +0000 Message-ID: <7E7DFBB4D102A04DB5ADC88D66628A4A0FB5088C@ICTS-S-MBX5.luna.kuleuven.be> References: <508D47B2.8060209@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <46A9A1D9FC954A658216B197782524BF@White> <891CD59233F844C283BAC09A2AAA04BA@White> <508D6A9D.4020600@iup.uni-heidelberg.de>,<508D6C1A.7050607@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> In-Reply-To: <508D6C1A.7050607@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Accept-Language: nl-BE, en-US Content-Language: nl-BE X-MS-Has-Attach: X-MS-TNEF-Correlator: x-originating-ip: [10.112.13.12] MIME-Version: 1.0 X-HELO-Warning: Remote host 134.58.240.129 (rhcavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be) used invalid HELO/EHLO cavuit01.kulnet.kuleuven.be - verification failed X-Spam-Score: -1.3 (-) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. 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This morning I copied Albert (PA0A) with a good audible signal and yet "onl= y" -13dB. A flue in the SNR calculation? 73, Rik ON7YD - OR7T ________________________________ Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= ] namens Stefan Sch=E4fer [Stefan.Schaefer@iup.uni-heidelberg.de] Verzonden: zondag 28 oktober 2012 18:32 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Onderwerp: Re: LF: no decodes, help needed Now it's 5W TX power. I leave it running on that QRG for those who want to = test... Back in a few hours.. 73, Stefan Am 28.10.2012 18:25, schrieb Stefan Sch=E4fer: Could it be possible that the programm does not choose the center frequency= that we actually have set? If we set 1430 Hz center by pointing on the wat= erfal display with the mouse, the marker follows to that point. But maybe t= he program does not! Markus, -14 dB is rather realistic for my 100 Hz sidebands :-) This is not = a choke! Maybe the program receives somewhere else. When restating the program, the marker is back to 1000 Hz and must be set t= o the actual center frequency again. Maybe one has to do a restart after th= at ;-) But for some other OMs like F6CNI it obviously works... Maybe it has to do with the samplerate? Andy/F6CNI, which samplerate do you choose and can you receive my signal as= well? What is the decode level? I'm 10 dB below my normal strength in the = moment. Your "dial" frequency is 136 kHz? 73, Stefan/DK7FC Am 28.10.2012 18:11, schrieb Markus Vester: Sporadic decodes on JT9-2: 1646 10 -14 0.4 1930.52 0.00 CQ DK7FC JN49 1648 1 -30 -0.1 1878.56 0.00 1650 10 -15 0.4 1930.67 0.00 1652 10 -21 0.4 1933.99 0.00 PA0A TEST 1654 10 -14 0.0 1931.14 0.00 1656 5 -25 0.4 1934.07 0.00 PA0A TEST 1658 10 -16 0.4 1930.57 0.00 CQ DK7FC JN49 1700 4 -26 0.4 1934.23 0.00 1702 10 -14 0.4 1930.83 0.00 1704 10 -22 0.4 1933.99 0.00 DK7FC PA0A JO33 1706 10 -16 0.4 1930.33 0.00 1708 10 -21 0.4 1933.99 0.00 DK7FC PA0A JO33 PA0A has been sending in every even 2-minute slot, and DK7FC in every odd o= ne. DK7FC should be stronger than indicated, usually positive dB's in WSPR.= Will save some wavs of missing decodes. Best 73, Markus (DF6NM) From: Markus Vester Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 5:52 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Cc: rsgb_lf_group@yahoogroups.co.uk Subject: Re: LF: no decodes, help needed I'm receiving a strong JT9-1 signal on even minutes which must be from DK7F= C, but like with PA0A I'm getting no decodes. Strange thing is that though = the signal was clearly absent at odd minute slots, WSJT-X seemed to produce= an echo. This appeared on the waterfall and sync aquisition, but of course= won't decode either. https://dl.dropbox.com/u/26404526/jt9-1_dk7fc_echo.png https://dl.dropbox.com/u/26404526/jt9-1_dk7fc_echo_waterfall.jpg This effect seems to be peculiar to JT9-1, and does not happen at JT9-2, wh= ich appears to decode nicely: 1646 10 -14 0.4 1930.52 0.00 CQ DK7FC JN49 Best 73, Markus (DF6NM) --_000_7E7DFBB4D102A04DB5ADC88D66628A4A0FB5088CICTSSMBX5lunaku_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable

Stefan:

 

1750   8  -23   0.4 1430.59&nb= sp; 0.00   DK7FC TEST 5W

 

Your signal&= nbsp;produced a solid (red) trace, seemed=  better than -23dB.

This morning= I copied Albert (PA0A) with a good<= /a> audible signal and yet "only" -13dB.

A flue in the SNR calculation?

 

73, Rik  ON7YD - OR7T

 

Van: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [o= wner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] namens Stefan Sch=E4fer [Stefan.Schaefer= @iup.uni-heidelberg.de]
Verzonden: zondag 28 oktober 2012 18:32
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Onderwerp: Re: LF: no decodes, help needed

Now it's 5W TX power. I leave it running on that QRG for those who wan= t to test...

Back in a few hours..

73, Stefan

Am 28.10.2012 18:25, schrieb Stefan Sch=E4fer:
Could it be possible that the programm does not c= hoose the center frequency that we actually have set? If we set 1430 Hz cen= ter by pointing on the waterfal display with the mouse, the marker follows = to that point. But maybe the program does not!

Markus, -14 dB is rather realistic for my 100 Hz sidebands :-) This is not = a choke! Maybe the program receives somewhere else.

When restating the program, the marker is back to 1000 Hz and must be set t= o the actual center frequency again. Maybe one has to do a restart after th= at ;-)

But for some other OMs like F6CNI it obviously works...

Maybe it has to do with the samplerate?

Andy/F6CNI, which samplerate do you choose and can you receive my signal as= well? What is the decode level? I'm 10 dB below my normal strength in the = moment. Your "dial" frequency is 136 kHz?

73, Stefan/DK7FC


Am 28.10.2012 18:11, schrieb Markus Vester:
Sporadic decodes on JT9-2:
 
1646 10 -14 0.4 1930.52 0.00 CQ DK7FC = JN49

= 1648 1 -30 -0.1 1878.56 0.00

= 1650 10 -15 0.4 1930.67 0.00

= 1652 10 -21 0.4 1933.99 0.00 PA0A TEST

= 1654 10 -14 0.0 1931.14 0.00

= 1656 5 -25 0.4 1934.07 0.00 PA0A TEST

= 1658 10 -16 0.4 1930.57 0.00 CQ DK7FC JN49

= 1700 4 -26 0.4 1934.23 0.00

= 1702 10 -14 0.4 1930.83 0.00

1704 10 -22 0.4 1933.99 0.00 DK7FC PA0= A JO33

= 1706 10 -16 0.4 1930.33 0.00

= 1708 10 -21 0.4 1933.99 0.00 DK7FC PA0A JO33

 

PA0A has been sending in eve= ry even 2-minute slot, and DK7FC in every odd one. DK7FC should b= e stronger than indicated, usually positive dB's in WSPR. Will sa= ve some wavs of missing decodes.
 
Best 73,
Markus (DF6NM)
 
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 5:52 PM
Subject: Re: LF: no decodes, help needed

I'm receiving a strong JT9-1 signal on= even minutes which must be from DK7FC, but like with PA0A I'm getting no d= ecodes. Strange thing is that though the signal was clearly absent at odd m= inute slots, WSJT-X seemed to produce an echo. This appeared on the waterfall and sync aquisition, but= of course won't decode either.
 
= This effect seems to be peculiar to JT9-1, and does not happen at JT9-2, wh= ich appears to decode nicely:
 
= 1646 10 -14 0.4 1930.52 0.00 CQ DK7FC JN49
 
Best 73,
Markus (DF6NM)=
 
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