Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mp04.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 92B3638000090; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 05:14:54 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1TSOw2-0007lW-By for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 09:13:34 +0000 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1TSOw1-0007lN-OS for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 09:13:33 +0000 Received: from out1.ip04ir2.opaltelecom.net ([62.24.128.240]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1TSOvy-0007Ua-TR for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 28 Oct 2012 09:13:32 +0000 X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: AkACAIn2jFACZMJ//2dsb2JhbAANN4t3pQSIdwGMEgEBAQEDSUALCQgDAQEBAQkMCggHCQMCAQIBDyUJCBMGAgEBFodaAxqoJIh+DYlUiw5ngy2DMAOUH4FVgRqKF4gA X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="4.80,665,1344207600"; d="scan'208,217";a="389018417" Received: from host-2-100-194-127.as13285.net (HELO [192.168.2.3]) ([2.100.194.127]) by out1.ip04ir2.opaltelecom.net with ESMTP; 28 Oct 2012 09:13:28 +0000 Message-ID: <508CF739.8010209@psk31.plus.com> Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 09:13:29 +0000 From: g3zjo User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120327 Thunderbird/11.0.1 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <508C2AC9.3010109@broadpark.no><508C3D68.6020809@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <1CD1ED7C18E24EF1999E7C47A855EF7D@White> <508C6816.4050804@psk31.plus.com> <0FFE41FC2958470DA1182F727C7B6064@White> In-Reply-To: <0FFE41FC2958470DA1182F727C7B6064@White> X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Joe's updated .exe has cured the PTT problem. Direct X levels are correct although MME does use the sliders. I haven't tried as non Admin yet. [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: 396a95bbad9af60b2ee566edcd35b39e Subject: Re: LF: JT9: A New Digital Mode for MF and LF Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------010301060108060304020201" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1dc148508cf78e371b X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------010301060108060304020201 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit Joe's updated .exe has cured the PTT problem. Direct X levels are correct although MME does use the sliders. I haven't tried as non Admin yet. Eddie G3ZJO On 28/10/2012 00:20, Markus Vester wrote: > Hi Eddie, > 1) no com ports used here just plain VOX. > 2) I found that selecting the MME or WDM-KS sound drivers in setup > appears to bypass the "wave" slider in the audio mixer, producing high > levels. Ticked the Direct-X driver instead. > 3) Didn't stumble here as I'm running XP with admin rights. > Best of luck, > Markus > > *From:* g3zjo > *Sent:* Sunday, October 28, 2012 1:02 AM > *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > *Subject:* Re: LF: JT9: A New Digital Mode for MF and LF > > Not so here I am afraid, I was hoping to run on 500kHz. > > 1) On 2 very different computers the TX switching of the COM Port > Latches the TX on permanently, TX STOP puts it back into RX mode but > only closing the software unlatches the COM port. > > 2) Audio out levels are very high, higher than any other Ham software, > I will need an audio attenuator between line out and rig. > > 3) Program runs under an Admin Account but as a User it crashes after > different lengths of time on each computer. > > Any one else having problems.? Computer O/S is XP. > > Eddie G3ZJO > > On 27/10/2012 22:59, Markus Vester wrote: >> Currently testing JT9-2 on 137420, transmitting during even 2-minute >> slots. >> 73, Markus (DF6NM) >> >> *From:* Roger Lapthorn >> *Sent:* Saturday, October 27, 2012 10:26 PM >> *To:* rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org >> *Subject:* Re: LF: JT9: A New Digital Mode for MF and LF >> >> This is exciting news being a 2-way mode, especially as it is 9-FSK, >> so doesn't need a linear PA. With bandwidths as small as 0.4Hz for >> the long version, no-one will be complaining about how much bandwidth >> all this digital stuff takes. Unlike OPERA, the software will be well >> documented and open source. >> >> There is a danger that, with too many digital modes now available, >> the activity may be spread too thinly, a point Mal raised some time >> back I believe Somehow though I suspect JT9 will rapidly become the >> de-facto digital mode on 472kHz and 136kHz. >> >> I hope that one of the internet databases - PSK Reporter I guess, or >> perhaps an equivalent to WSPRnet - will be able to display JT9 >> activity as this was one of the great bonuses with WSPR beaconing. >> >> I may give it a go on 500kHz next week. >> >> 73s >> Roger G3XBM >> >> >> On 27 October 2012 21:00, Stefan Schäfer >> > > wrote: >> >> Oh, now Joe has lifted the secret ;-) >> He released the mode 2 days ago and a first update yesterday. >> >> Now it really gets complex which mode to choose. WSPR, Opera, JT9... >> But as a digital mode for LF i gues JT9-30 is the most promising >> at all. >> >> 73, Stefan/DK7FC >> >> >> >> >> -- >> http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/ >> http://www.g3xbm.co.uk >> https://sites.google.com/site/sub9khz/ >> http://qss2.blogspot.com/ >> >> >> No virus found in this message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5357 - Release Date: 10/27/12 >> > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5357 - Release Date: 10/27/12 > --------------010301060108060304020201 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Joe's updated .exe has cured the PTT problem.

Direct X levels are correct although MME does use the sliders.

I haven't tried as non Admin yet.

Eddie G3ZJO
 
On 28/10/2012 00:20, Markus Vester wrote:
Hi Eddie,
 
1) no com ports used here just plain VOX.
 
2) I found that selecting the MME or WDM-KS sound drivers in setup appears to bypass the "wave" slider in the audio mixer, producing high levels. Ticked the Direct-X driver instead.  
 
3) Didn't stumble here as I'm running XP with admin rights.
 
Best of luck,
Markus

From: g3zjo
Sent: Sunday, October 28, 2012 1:02 AM
Subject: Re: LF: JT9: A New Digital Mode for MF and LF

Not so here I am afraid, I was hoping to run on 500kHz.

1) On 2 very different computers the TX switching of the COM Port Latches the TX on permanently, TX STOP puts it back into RX mode but only closing the software unlatches the COM port.

2) Audio out levels are very high, higher than any other Ham software, I will need an audio attenuator between line out and rig.

3) Program runs under an Admin Account but as a User it crashes after different lengths of time on each computer.

Any one else having problems.? Computer O/S is XP.

Eddie G3ZJO

On 27/10/2012 22:59, Markus Vester wrote:
Currently testing JT9-2 on 137420, transmitting during even 2-minute slots.
 
73, Markus (DF6NM)

Sent: Saturday, October 27, 2012 10:26 PM
Subject: Re: LF: JT9: A New Digital Mode for MF and LF

This is exciting news being a 2-way mode, especially as it is 9-FSK, so doesn't need a linear PA. With bandwidths as small as 0.4Hz for the long version, no-one will be complaining about how much bandwidth all this digital stuff takes. Unlike OPERA, the software will be well documented and open source.

There is a danger that, with too many digital modes now available, the activity may be spread too thinly, a point Mal raised some time back I believe Somehow though I suspect JT9 will rapidly become the de-facto digital mode on 472kHz and 136kHz.

I hope that one of the internet databases - PSK Reporter I guess, or perhaps an equivalent to WSPRnet - will be able to display JT9 activity as this was one of the great bonuses with WSPR beaconing.

I may give it a go on 500kHz next week.

73s
Roger G3XBM


On 27 October 2012 21:00, Stefan Schäfer <Stefan.Schaefer@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> wrote:
Oh, now Joe has lifted the secret ;-)
He released the mode 2 days ago and a first update yesterday.

Now it really gets complex which mode to choose. WSPR, Opera, JT9...
But as a digital mode for LF i gues JT9-30 is the most promising at all.

73, Stefan/DK7FC




--
 http://g3xbm-qrp.blogspot.com/
http://www.g3xbm.co.uk
https://sites.google.com/site/sub9khz/
http://qss2.blogspot.com/


No virus found in this message.
Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5357 - Release Date: 10/27/12


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Checked by AVG - www.avg.com
Version: 2012.0.2221 / Virus Database: 2441/5357 - Release Date: 10/27/12


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