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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: hello Markus,all same kind of problem here with the wspr software.I switched my rx to cw with a narrow filter and 750HZ BFO offset.Decodes perfectly but no uploads to the database,allthough I could see my call on the map as an active rx station.no error message. probably a bug in the program? 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Today I changed back to LF (which is 0.1355 MHz dial and 2000 Hz BFO here) and got fine decodes, but no uploads, with a persistant error message "frequency changed no upload of spots". Tried all sorts of different settings (which is time consuming) but didn't succeed - anyone out there who has seen and solved this? Now back to WSPR 2.0 with same parameters, running just fine. Yesterday one neighbour had a nearby large pine tree chopped off, and now I find my antenna current boosted from 3.4 to 4.1 amps!=20 Frequent DF6NM grabber watchers are probably familiar with a QRM line which appeared on 136.9 kHz same hours each day. A portable RX pointed towards a source in one other neighbour's house, and last weekend I finally found the courage to knock on their door. When I mentioned the regular on and off times, my neighbour identified the flourescent lights of her fish tank! She allowed me to fix it, and I found a chopper based on a "smart controller" chip (Infineon ICB1FL02G), running at 45.6 kHz fundamental. Changing a frequency-setting resistor to push the beast to 41.5 kHz, plus retrofitting a three-wire cable and plug, cleared this one for good. Best 73, Markus (DF6NM) From: Stefan Sch=C3=A4fer=20 Sent: Tuesday, October 16, 2012 7:46 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: WSPR on LF Oh yes, let us all make a MEGA activity on LF tonite, just like the last=20 weekend on MF. That was really fine and impressing for all involved, i assume. Markus, Albert, Roland, Roger, Eddie, where are you? :-) 73, Stefan/DK7FC Am 16.10.2012 19:37, schrieb Stefan Sch=C3=A4fer: > LF, > > Does someone join in on LF WSPR? There are many active RX stations!=20 > Eddie/G3ZJO, what about you? Your results have been good on MF. On LF > the ERP will be 10 dB lower (ish) if the TX pwr is the same but i=20 > expect that you will have quite good chances in the groundwave range. > > There is a very high LF/MF and digimode appliance operator density in > the UK ;-) Also in Germany and the Netherlands and France. It looks=20 > like we (these countries) make the highest density of active LF/MF=20 > amateurs in the world, except Tokyo city of course :-) > > 73, Stefan/DK7FC > > > Am 16.10.2012 15:48, schrieb George Szymanski: >> You never know Stefan I might get a weak trace from you overnight! >> >> I'm too stupid to use Spec lab! >> I will try the Twente receiver but my internet is so very slow it >> might not work well enough. >> >> 73 de George, DU1GM >> >> >> On Tue, 16 Oct 2012 15:20:29 +0200, you wrote: >> >>> Hi George, >>> >>> There is no chance for you to display normal WSPR from me over that >>> distance in a spectrogram. Maybe you could display WSPR-32 but this is >>> still to optimistic i think. We really have to start in something like >>> QRSS-120 or DFCW-180 and then see what comes out. >>> >>> I have no idea how to set Argo for optimal displaying DFCW-180 since i >>> don't use the new version of the program. Furthermore i am very >>> convinced by using Spectrum Lab for LF/MF detection. Yes, the=20 >>> program is >>> much more complex but it offers some essential features! The band >>> limiting and noise blanking will reduce the QRN very significantly! The >>> improvement can vary from a few to 10 dB, depending on the kind of >>> noise. I will try to generate a new spectrogram soon, showing this >>> effect. >>> I don't know if Argo allows noise cancelling. But if you loose say 6 dB >>> SNR, that makes a difference from invisible to O copy. >>> >>> Did you try the Twente WEB SDR link i sent you? This is also useful to >>> check if the reference signal you're using is available at present. I'm >>> daily listening to AM BCD stns for many hours a day :-) >>> >>> As said, if you like i can give you some advice how to run a DCF-plot. >>> >>> 73, Stefan/DK7FC >>> >>>