Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mh03.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 4378D380000B9; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 13:29:52 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1TLdbo-0006of-QW for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 09 Oct 2012 18:28:44 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1TLdbo-0006oW-AM for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 09 Oct 2012 18:28:44 +0100 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.100.212]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1TLdbm-0004Nd-NJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 09 Oct 2012 18:28:43 +0100 Received: from freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de (freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.29.204]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q99HSfBW001508 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 19:28:41 +0200 Received: from [129.206.22.206] (pc206.iup.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.22.206]) by freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.11.20060308/8.11.2) with ESMTP id q99HSeuN026186 for ; Tue, 9 Oct 2012 19:28:40 +0200 Message-ID: <50745EC1.1090402@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2012 19:28:33 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Stefan_Sch=E4fer?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org References: <50731B6C.2060506@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <201210091526.52793.smtp01@email.it> In-Reply-To: <201210091526.52793.smtp01@email.it> X-Spam-Score: -2.8 (--) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Thank you Claudio, I will consider that when the probe is down from the roof next. There are a few dB in reserve, i'm still far away from the RX noise. But now it looks much better! Still some IM but only a little. Taking into account that AFN is arround, that's a positive result. If there would be oscillations on the output of the probe, then i would see them across the 50 Ohm resistor in the shack, at full amplitude, right? [...] Content analysis details: (-2.8 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [129.206.100.212 listed in list.dnswl.org] -2.1 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain X-Scan-Signature: 7001055fa59a9c23b9831ea6d317a074 Subject: Re: LF: active antenna output termination? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60d750745f1006f8 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Thank you Claudio, I will consider that when the probe is down from the roof next. There are a few dB in reserve, i'm still far away from the RX noise. But now it looks much better! Still some IM but only a little. Taking into account that AFN is arround, that's a positive result. If there would be oscillations on the output of the probe, then i would see them across the 50 Ohm resistor in the shack, at full amplitude, right? 73, Stefan/DK7FC Am 09.10.2012 15:26, schrieb Claudio Pozzi: > > The emitter follower transistor have a very low output impedance, no problems > for receiving purpose but... if you use a long coaxial cable you connect a > capacitance of about 100 pF/meter between output and ground. The circuit can > become unstable and oscillate, I found that a 27 or 33 ohm resistor in series > to the output help to kill the oscillation and the signal loss is a little > less than 6 dB (voltage, 3dB power). > > I's a good practice to put a few ohm resistor in series at the low impedance > output devices (OP-AMP, emitter follower, 74HCxxx buffers etc) driving a > capacitive load to prevent oscillation. > > 73 > > Claudio, ik2pii > >