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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hello Jay, LF, A late thank you for the report and capture. Short report what is new and happend here: We had a loss of our web- and mail-server here for more than 1 day, so i don't know if my previous answer to your email is lost or came through... [...] Content analysis details: (-4.4 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -2.3 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, medium trust [129.206.210.211 listed in list.dnswl.org] -2.1 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: 6bb858db23df2b82c4f5a8cb512b45b1 Subject: Re: LF: T/A and recent LF/MF changes at DK7FC and a more available MF Grabber Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------040709030704080900060307" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.5 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE,HTML_TITLE_EMPTY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d4049506ee72e0465 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------040709030704080900060307 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Jay, LF, A late thank you for the report and capture. Short report what is new and happend here: We had a loss of our web- and mail-server here for more than 1 day, so i don't know if my previous answer to your email is lost or came through... I also lost the contact to my old notebook which i exclusively use to generate tones for steering the PA. It is mounted in a fixed and closed position, so i can't see the screen, only by using a teamviever remote software access. But now i'm back and will put some more kWh of RF energy into the iono :-) Ah BTW, i did some changes on my LF receive antenna. Beeing impressed by the excellent performance of the Twente WEB SDR and my need to have another fixed antenna installation for 472 kHz i decided to try a new active E field antenna circuit. The design is now a step closer to the PA0RDT design (now using a wideband input, a source follower in the first stage, i.e. no voltage gain). But the main and very significant improvement was achieved by trying another location. This is only 2m higher from the top of the building, i.e. now in *37m AGL*. It is fixed on a pole of a WX station. I never expected such a difference. The complete building seems to be covered by a *QRM-cloud* which greatly decreases with the distance, even in that little height difference. Now i can see the 630m band much more clear and several QRM lines disappeared. The same applies to LF! Also the LF/MF background noise is now not any more affected by the nearby resonant transmit antenna (not at all!). This is only due to the location (i made a test with the new antenna circuit on the old location). So now it is moch more easy to become QRV on MF, which was the goal. Still not sure but maybe my LF reception is much better now. I will rise the antenna height by another 1...2m. Then i will give LF CW a new chance :-) However there is still a local drifting noise source which rises my LF noise floor... Yesterday i worked DD7PC on 472.5 kHz who was a real 599 here, stronger than all NDBs. I discovered the *world of receiving* instead of transmitting ;-) Due to the RX improvements i will receive in *OP32* and *WSPR* in the coming days, *transmissions apprechiated*! My MF RX shall be running permanently, allowing to run a more permanent available MF grabber to coordinate activity and check the band as seen here. http://www.iup.uni-heidelberg.de/schaefer_vlf/DK7FC_MF_Grabber.html I have to do some more tests and mods to the equipment but am optimistic to have a good progress. 73, Stefan/DK7FC Am 03.10.2012 13:32, schrieb jrusgrove@comcast.net: > Stefan & T/A enthusiasts > > Your signal popped out of the noise for just one sequence ... probably > a combination of 'constructive' propagation and a small improvement in > DST ... which I believe was ~ -25 to -30 nT at the time. Never say > never ... > > Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 --------------040709030704080900060307 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Jay, LF,

A late thank you for the report and capture.

Short report what is new and happend here:
We had a loss of our web- and mail-server here for more than 1 day, so i don't know if my previous answer to your email is lost or came through...

I also lost the contact to my old notebook which i exclusively use to generate tones for steering the PA. It is mounted in a fixed and closed position, so i can't see the screen, only by using a teamviever remote software access. But now i'm back and will put some more kWh of RF energy into the iono :-)

Ah BTW, i did some changes on my LF receive antenna. Beeing impressed by the excellent performance of the Twente WEB SDR and my need to have another fixed antenna installation for 472 kHz i decided to try a new active E field antenna circuit. The design is now a step closer to the PA0RDT design (now using a wideband input, a source follower in the first stage, i.e. no voltage gain).
But the main and very significant improvement was achieved by trying another location. This is only 2m higher from the top of the building, i.e. now in 37m AGL. It is fixed on a pole of a WX station. I never expected such a difference. The complete building seems to be covered by a QRM-cloud which greatly decreases with the distance, even in that little height difference.

Now i can see the 630m band much more clear and several QRM lines disappeared. The same applies to LF! Also the LF/MF background noise is now not any more affected by the nearby resonant transmit antenna (not at all!). This is only due to the location (i made a test with the new antenna circuit on the old location). So now it is moch more easy to become QRV on MF, which was the goal.

Still not sure but maybe my LF reception is much better now. I will rise the antenna height by another 1...2m. Then i will give LF CW a new chance :-) However there is still a local drifting noise source which rises my LF noise floor...

Yesterday i worked DD7PC on 472.5 kHz who was a real 599 here, stronger than all NDBs.

I discovered the world of receiving instead of transmitting ;-) Due to the RX improvements i will receive in OP32 and WSPR in the coming days, transmissions apprechiated!
My MF RX shall be running permanently, allowing to run a more permanent available MF grabber to coordinate activity and check the band as seen here. http://www.iup.uni-heidelberg.de/schaefer_vlf/DK7FC_MF_Grabber.html

I have to do some more tests and mods to the equipment but am optimistic to have a good progress.

73, Stefan/DK7FC






Am 03.10.2012 13:32, schrieb jrusgrove@comcast.net:
Stefan & T/A enthusiasts

Your signal popped out of the noise for just one sequence ... probably a combination of 'constructive' propagation and a small improvement in DST ... which I believe was ~ -25 to -30 nT at the time. Never say never ...

Jay W1VD  WD2XNS  WE2XGR/2
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