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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Oh well , and you also have the heater in north Norway doing the same thing on a smaller scale .. looking on g-earth the ranges to EU north Russia are not that far (ish) with a good day/night may soon ? 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GL -73 -G.. From: Laurence KL1 X=20 Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 12:01 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: RE: LF: OP32 Thanks G and Stefan - no I think its just poorish conditions up here in = the North (more geomag latitude) - at medium latitudes conditions may be = good, but up here in la la land we tend to get hard first and hardest = before stuff starts to precipitate down to say 50degN - the Path to = Japan pretty much stays open under but the very worst of conditions, but = Eu and East Coast USA gets beaten up very quickly. =20 If I can see visual aurora I can basically shut down and take up trying = to mount surface mounted components for a few days :-) But it can be = very fickle - some times the "repair" can be a lot quicker than = anticipated but more often not so. =20 I ran a 137.780 phase stable and locked carrier at around 1kW the other = night but no reception - again there was visual aurora so I was only = doing a "Haarp" and heating what ever is alive beneath the loop. Laurence KL 1 X WE2 XPQ=20 =20 -------------------------------------------------------------------------= ------- Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 23:27:55 +0200 From: Stefan.Schaefer@iup.uni-heidelberg.de To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: OP32 Hi Laurence, Am 24.10.2012 23:18, schrieb Laurence KL1 X:=20 [...] =20 Just needs to quieten down for a few more days but I think Im going to = be dissapointed.=20 You know you have to stay optimistic all the time. Be happy to have some = challenges left. What should i say, hi. If you cab really run a key down transmission, i.e. a GPS locked = "carrier" for some hours i would give it a try to appear in a uHz = spectrogram, as a first goal. Of course it is only useful if the RX has = a reasonable stabilitym which applies not for every grabber available. What is the next distance to reach? 73, GL, Stefan/DK7FC At least SAQ was seen even whilst the 137 Opera was blasting away! =20 =20 Laurence WE2XPQ Part 5 KL 1 X ------=_NextPart_000_00B6_01CDB246.8C5073B0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Oh well  , and you  = also  have=20 the  heater  in  north  Norway  doing the  = same=20 thing  on a  smaller  scale   ..  = looking  on=20 g-earth  the  ranges to  EU  north  = Russia =20 are  not that  far  (ish)  with a  good =20 day/night  may  soon  ?
 
GL -73 -G..
 
 

From: Laurence KL1 X
Sent: Thursday, October 25, 2012 12:01 AM
Subject: RE: LF: OP32


Thanks G and Stefan - no I think its just = poorish=20 conditions up here in the North (more geomag latitude) - at medium=20 latitudes conditions may be good, but up here in la = la land we=20 tend to get hard first and hardest before stuff starts to = precipitate down to say 50degN  - the Path to Japan pretty much = stays=20 open under but the very worst of conditions, but Eu and East Coast = USA gets=20 beaten up very quickly.
 
If I can see visual aurora I can = basically=20 shut down and take up trying to mount surface mounted components for a = few days=20 :-)  But it can be very fickle - some times the "repair" can be a = lot=20 quicker than anticipated but more often not so.
 
I ran = a=20 137.780 phase stable and locked carrier at around 1kW the other night = but no=20 reception - again there was visual aurora so I was only doing = a=20 "Haarp" and heating what ever is alive  beneath the = loop.
 
Laurence KL 1 X  WE2 XPQ
 
Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2012 23:27:55 +0200
From:=20 Stefan.Schaefer@iup.uni-heidelberg.de
To:=20 rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: OP32

Hi=20 Laurence,

Am 24.10.2012 23:18, schrieb Laurence KL1 X:=20
[...]
 
Just needs to quieten down for a few = more days=20 but I think Im going to be dissapointed.
You know = you have to=20 stay optimistic all the time. Be happy to have some challenges left. = What should=20 i say, hi.

If you cab really run a key down transmission, i.e. a = GPS=20 locked "carrier" for some hours i would give it a try to appear in a uHz = spectrogram, as a first goal. Of course it is only useful if the RX has = a=20 reasonable stabilitym which applies not for every grabber = available.

What=20 is the next distance to reach?

73, GL, = Stefan/DK7FC



At least SAQ was seen even whilst the 137 = Opera was blasting=20 away!
 
 
Laurence WE2XPQ Part 5  KL 1=20 X
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