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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Stefan Others have covered that distance using CW on 500 Khz like EI0CF and G3KEV and maybe others. A few years back AA1A and NC1K had excellent receiver capabilities on LF es MF and were available for QSO'S At that time they used to reply to me on 7033 Khz CW. I have also worked several Russian stns on CW they also reply to me on 7033 since they have no permit for 500 Khz I prefer to make it across the Atlantic with real radio on CW mal/g3kev [...] Content analysis details: (4.4 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 4.4 AXB_XMAILER_MIMEOLE_OL_024C2 AXB_XMAILER_MIMEOLE_OL_024C2 X-Scan-Signature: 479f887a0af49374011bd47f9dfa3263 Subject: Re: LF: log from wspring on 600m Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0016_01CDA943.0B66C580" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY,LINES_OF_YELLING,LINES_OF_YELLING_2 autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d6018507967031a2d X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01CDA943.0B66C580 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Stefan Others have covered that distance using CW on 500 Khz like EI0CF and = G3KEV and maybe others. A few years back AA1A and NC1K had excellent receiver capabilities on LF = es MF and were available for QSO'S At that time they used to reply to me on 7033 Khz CW. I have also worked several Russian stns on CW they also reply to me on = 7033 since they have no permit for 500 Khz I prefer to make it across the Atlantic with real radio on CW mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Stefan Sch=E4fer=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Saturday, October 13, 2012 12:25 PM Subject: Re: LF: log from wspring on 600m Hi Steinar,=20 Thanks for monitoring. It was an amazing activity, i've never seen so many transmit stations = to the same time (10 or so). Best decode for me so far was=20 Timestamp Call MHz SNR Drift Grid Pwr Reporter RGrid km az=20 2012-10-13 01:00 DK7FC 0.477201 -28 0 JN49ik 1 = WD2XSH/17 FN42pb 5927 294=20 Which is my first T/A crossing on MF :-) Probably much more would be possible in that sort of distance if we = would have the same TX/RX band :-/ I'll leave it running over this night again. Now the band is closed, = my grabber background is black! Keep an eye open for DK0SWF this evening! 73, Stefan/DK7FC Am 13.10.2012 01:27, schrieb Steinar Aanesland:=20 Hi all=20 My RX WSPRing is on now. My am sorry, but I was not able to start = earlier.=20 Here is the first log.=20 2310 -15 -1.8 0.475753 0 DL3NDR JN59 27=20 2312 -22 -1.2 0.475629 0 DF6NM JN59 27=20 2312 -4 -1.4 0.475701 0 DK7FC JN49 30=20 2312 -26 -0.3 0.475769 0 DG3LV JO53 43=20 2316 -6 -1.1 0.475701 0 DK7FC JN49 30=20 2318 -23 -1.2 0.475629 0 DF6NM JN59 27=20 2320 -8 -0.7 0.475701 0 DK7FC JN49 30=20 2320 -19 -1.5 0.475753 0 DL3NDR JN59 27=20 2324 -10 -0.5 0.475701 0 DK7FC JN49 30=20 LA5VNA Steinar=20 loc:jo59jq=20 Malware filtering: strong=20 www.opera.no=20 PS: I still would like to make a wspr-60 experiment trying to = receive from a transmitter with reduced power, but then some of you have = to do the TXing..=20 Den 12.10.2012 22:20, skrev Roland Bruestle:=20 Hello Steinar,=20 do you like to a test with slowWSPR?=20 We want to compare WSPR 2Min against SlowWSPR 8Min.=20 I thought we should do a start test.=20 I'm transmitting normal WSPR and Slow WSPR-2 to the same time. = This cane=20 seen with normal WSPR.=20 If this will be ok, than we know the transmision is ok.=20 After this I'm transmitting normal WSPR and Slow WSPR-8. Than we = can see=20 the SNR change. My be -6dB.=20 I'm transmitting now:=20 normal WSPR on 47585Hz=20 Slow WSPR-2 on 47575Hz=20 Please listen if you are interested. Give me report.=20 Gr=FC=DFe=20 Roland=20 Am 30.09.2012 22:53, schrieb Steinar Aanesland:=20 Great, I am looking forward to copy you in slowWSPR :)=20 I have plans to make my own transmitter, but until then I will = stay=20 RXing .=20 La5vna=20 Den 30.09.2012 22:33, skrev Roland Bruestle:=20 Hi Steinar,=20 I'm on blacksheep.=20 Yes I'm interested on using wsper-8 or wspr-32.=20 I talked already with Markus. May bee he told this to you.=20 He gave me his soft ware. I have to install it now.=20 When I'm ready I will contact you via blacksheep.=20 I may take some days.=20 Roland=20 Am 30.09.2012 21:29, schrieb Steinar Aanesland:=20 I ma not sure if you are on blacksheep or yahoo so this goes = to both=20 groups.=20 Have you considered using wsper-8 or wspr-32 on MF?=20 1912 -31 -0.5 0.501469 0 DG3LV JO53 43=20 1912 -21 0.9 0.501543 0 DL3NDR JN59 27=20 1914 -23 1.0 0.501543 0 DL3NDR JN59 27=20 1916 -23 -1.7 0.501543 0 DL3NDR JN59 27=20 1918 -26 -0.3 0.501469 0 DG3LV JO53 43=20 --=20 LA5VNA Steinar=20 loc:jo59jq=20 www.opera.no=20 ------=_NextPart_000_0016_01CDA943.0B66C580 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Stefan
Others have covered that distance using CW on = 500 =20 Khz like EI0CF and G3KEV and maybe others.
A few years back AA1A and NC1K had excellent = receiver=20 capabilities on LF es MF and were available for QSO'S
At that time they used to reply to me on 7033 = Khz=20 CW.
I have also worked several Russian stns on CW = they also=20 reply to me on 7033 since they have no permit for 500 Khz
I prefer to make it across the Atlantic with = real radio on=20 CW
mal/g3kev
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Stefan = Sch=E4fer
Sent: Saturday, October 13, = 2012 12:25=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: log from = wspring on=20 600m

Hi Steinar,

Thanks for monitoring.
It was an = amazing=20 activity, i've never seen so many transmit stations to the same = time=20 (10 or so).

Best decode for me so far was
Timestamp Call MHz SNR Drift Grid Pwr Reporter RGrid km az
 2012-10-13 01:00   DK7FC   0.477201   -28   0   JN49ik   1   WD2XSH/17   FN42pb   5927   294

Which is = my first T/A=20 crossing on MF :-)

Probably much more would be possible in that = sort of=20 distance if we would have the same TX/RX band :-/

I'll leave it = running=20 over this night again. Now the band is closed, my grabber background = is=20 black!

Keep an eye open for DK0SWF this evening!

73,=20 Stefan/DK7FC


Am 13.10.2012 01:27, schrieb Steinar = Aanesland:=20

Hi all=20

My RX WSPRing is on now. My am sorry, but I was not able to = start=20 earlier.

Here is the first log.

2310 -15 = -1.8  =20 0.475753  0 DL3NDR JN59 27
2312 -22 -1.2   = 0.475629 =20 0 DF6NM JN59 27
2312  -4 -1.4   0.475701  0 = DK7FC=20 JN49 30
2312 -26 -0.3   0.475769  0 DG3LV JO53 43 =
2316  -6 -1.1   0.475701  0 DK7FC JN49 30 =
2318=20 -23 -1.2   0.475629  0 DF6NM JN59 27
2320  = -8=20 -0.7   0.475701  0 DK7FC JN49 30
2320 -19=20 -1.5   0.475753  0 DL3NDR JN59 27
2324 -10=20 -0.5   0.475701  0 DK7FC JN49 30

LA5VNA = Steinar=20
loc:jo59jq
Malware filtering: strong
www.opera.no=20


PS: I still would like to make a wspr-60 experiment = trying to=20 receive from a transmitter with reduced power, but then some of you = have to=20 do the TXing..








Den 12.10.2012 = 22:20,=20 skrev Roland Bruestle:
Hello Steinar,
do you like to a test = with=20 slowWSPR?
We want to compare WSPR 2Min against SlowWSPR 8Min. =
I=20 thought we should do a start  test.
I'm transmitting = normal WSPR=20 and Slow WSPR-2 to the same time. This cane
seen with normal = WSPR.=20
If this will be ok, than we know the transmision is ok. =
After this=20 I'm transmitting normal WSPR and Slow WSPR-8. Than we can see =
the SNR=20 change. My be -6dB.
I'm transmitting now:
normal WSPR on = 47585Hz=20
Slow WSPR-2 on 47575Hz

Please listen if you are = interested.=20 Give me report.

Gr=FC=DFe
Roland



Am = 30.09.2012=20 22:53, schrieb Steinar Aanesland:
Great, I am looking forward to copy you = in=20 slowWSPR :)

I have plans to make my own transmitter, but = until=20 then I will stay
RXing .

La5vna


Den = 30.09.2012=20 22:33, skrev Roland Bruestle:
Hi Steinar,
I'm on blacksheep. =
Yes I'm=20 interested on using wsper-8 or wspr-32.
I talked already = with=20 Markus. May bee he told this to you.
He gave me his soft = ware. I=20 have to install it now.
When I'm ready I will contact you = via=20 blacksheep.
I may take some days.

Roland =


Am=20 30.09.2012 21:29, schrieb Steinar Aanesland:
I ma not sure if you are on = blacksheep or=20 yahoo so this goes to both
groups.

Have you = considered=20 using wsper-8 or wspr-32 on MF?


1912 -31=20 -0.5   0.501469  0 DG3LV JO53 43
1912 = -21 =20 0.9   0.501543  0 DL3NDR JN59 27
1914 = -23 =20 1.0   0.501543  0 DL3NDR JN59 27
1916 -23 = -1.7   0.501543  0 DL3NDR JN59 27
1918 = -26=20 -0.3   0.501469  0 DG3LV JO53 43=20





-- =
LA5VNA Steinar=20
loc:jo59jq
www.opera.no=20 =






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