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(VPS 120930-0, 30/09/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi Jay the problem being we dont have ready access to Blacksheep. I suggest no-one cross posts messages they do not originate. This is the only polite way. I thought there was a mirror/archive of Blacksheep messages in the US....I remember seeing one about 10 years ago....but cant find it now so it must have died. It is easy enough to set up a Yahoo private group and have all the facilities that seem to be required....continuing with this Group in the present conditions is just a hassle. I would have thought an "open" group would be a better way to encourage new LF stations. A poster can delete their own messages if they dont want them to persist. You can pull up all you posts and delete in one go. They may be cached for a while but will soon "decay". You cannot "hide" an email address easily, though you may be able to use an anonymous site. I have no experience of that. [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [217.146.183.226 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid 0.0 UNPARSEABLE_RELAY Informational: message has unparseable relay lines X-Scan-Signature: f1498eebf16822c5ea85527a90413169 Subject: Re: LF: test Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="ISO-8859-15"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: ** X-Spam-Status: No, hits=2.8 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK, NO_EXPERIENCE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mtain-mh03.r1000.mx.aol.com ; domain : btinternet.com DKIM : fail x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60d7506853437c3b X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Hi Jay the problem being we dont have ready access to Blacksheep. I suggest no-one cross posts messages they do not originate. This is the only polite way. I thought there was a mirror/archive of Blacksheep messages in the US....I remember seeing one about 10 years ago....but cant find it now so it must have died. It is easy enough to set up a Yahoo private group and have all the facilities that seem to be required....continuing with this Group in the present conditions is just a hassle. I would have thought an "open" group would be a better way to encourage new LF stations. A poster can delete their own messages if they dont want them to persist. You can pull up all you posts and delete in one go. They may be cached for a while but will soon "decay". You cannot "hide" an email address easily, though you may be able to use an anonymous site. I have no experience of that. Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: To: Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 3:24 AM Subject: Re: LF: test > Alan > > Another possible solution ... > > Everyone on this list could indicate their preference ... 1) okay to > cross-post without permission, 2) okay to cross-post with permission or 3) > cross-posts never allowed. It would seem that this could be done with a > 'gentleman's agreement'. If not, anyone that cross-posts against the > desires of the originator will be subject to removal from this list. > > Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Alan Melia" > To: > Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 7:45 PM > Subject: Re: LF: test > > >> You can actually set up a private group on Yahoo where members only see >> the messages. I use these for a number of different committee. There is >> no access to messages outside the group members, and messages are not >> open to google style searches.In fact no one else knows the group exists! >> >> Alan >> G3NYK >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Stefan Schäfer" >> To: >> Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 11:56 PM >> Subject: Re: LF: test >> >> >>> ...i am extremely irritated to see my emails and even my email adress in >>> this reflector beeing permanently forwarded to the web, i.e. certain >>> public groups. Thus i consider to reduce my activity here and >>> communicate with the few really active people directly, at least for >>> some time. >>> >>> Stefan/DK7FC >>> >>> >>> Am 29.09.2012 21:34, schrieb wolf_dl4yhf: >>>> .. suspiciously quiet here on the reflector, especially for a weekend >>>> .. >>> >> >> > >