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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Yes G wave is very constant , I can obtain decodes using ros-mf-2 ( -27 dB ros/op s/n scale ) via the delft web-sdr with about 150 watts feed to the Ae , and very much less to John in the Shetland Isles , though at that time I have a very high local noise level , which prevented decodes . [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [80.12.242.80 listed in list.dnswl.org] X-Scan-Signature: 1908b49407fc556987226b536cc4bad0 Subject: Re: LF: MF acty Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="utf-8"; reply-type=response Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60d550477fa84514 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Yes G wave is very constant , I can obtain decodes using ros-mf-2 ( -27 dB ros/op s/n scale ) via the delft web-sdr with about 150 watts feed to the Ae , and very much less to John in the Shetland Isles , though at that time I have a very high local noise level , which prevented decodes . And with the big loop at gb4fpr 600ft delta , the 505 beacons where good copy all day , with Andy's beacon 559 ..noise is the limiting factor , 500 propagation is very good , even compared to 160 , which I think is why 600 mtrs was 'pinched' by the marine service at the change over from spark to carrier wave [ Mal may have more on that one :) ] 73 -G. -------------------------------------------------- From: "Stefan Schäfer" Sent: Wednesday, September 05, 2012 4:19 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: MF acty > MF, > > Here i've made a diagram showing the SNRs as a function of time of those > stations who received me on 477 kHz since this day. > > It shows clearly that the groundwave path must be very stable over the > daytime and seems to be limited to less than 500km. There are stations who > are continually monitoring the QRG but as soon as the sunrise comes, no > signals are detected in the UK while the levels are 25 dB above the decode > limit in the night. > > So far there were no TA decodes during the last night. I think i will run > the TX for another 24 hours in that mode. I'm looking forward to the > effect of different RX locations when the sun goes down in some hours. > > The diagram is here: https://dl.dropbox.com/u/19882028/MF/OP4SNR.png > > 73 and tnx to the RX stations! > > Stefan/DK7FC > > > > > Am 05.09.2012 01:36, schrieb Graham: >> Stefan >> >> G.. >> >> Monitor: VE1VDM Loc FN85IJ >> Frequency: 0.477 MHz (600m) >> Using: Opera v1.4.3/Rptr V1.6 >> Antenna: RX Op4 >> Show all seen by VE1VDM >> Last report: VE1VDM >> at Tue, 04 Sep 2012 23:29:12 GM >> >> -------------------------------------------------- >> From: "Stefan Schäfer" >> Sent: Tuesday, September 04, 2012 11:56 PM >> To: >> Subject: Re: LF: MF acty >> >>> MF, >>> >>> Thanks to PA3ABK for the QSO! >>> >>> Maybe i'll be back in CW tomorrow. At least i will run OP4 on 477 kHz >>> over the night, now that the system is resonated to MF and the TX is >>> ready to go... >>> >>> 73, Stefan/DK7FC >>> >>> >>> Am 04.09.2012 21:24, schrieb Stefan Schäfer: >>>> Hi Vernon, >>>> >>>> Am 04.09.2012 21:13, schrieb vmath@eastlink.ca: >>>>> I will listen....will u have enuff little watts to make it across the >>>>> pond.. >>>> Yes, i think so. But i don't know when the band opens to your location. >>>> Maybe you will hear me. If so, pse give me a feedback. >>>> >>>> 73, Stefan >>>> >>>> >>>>> Vern >>>>> Sent on the TELUS Mobility network with BlackBerry >>>>> >>>> >>> >