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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Not bad Terry ! Only very low traces showing on g4wgt grabbers at the moment , G. [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [80.12.242.29 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: b23fd5b4ffade02088955ccf87364d84 Subject: Re: LF: MF tonite BSK8 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_01C1_01CD9209.B583B100" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.2 required=5.0 tests=HTML_60_70,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d6018505262044937 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_01C1_01CD9209.B583B100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Not bad Terry ! Only very low traces showing on g4wgt grabbers at the moment ,=20 G. From: Terry GW0EZY=20 Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 11:15 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: RE: LF: MF tonite BSK8 Now getting PSK31 decodes =E2=80=93 not solid copy but it=E2=80=99s a = copy!! =20 73 Terry =20 From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org = [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Roland Bruestle Sent: 13 September 2012 22:16 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: MF tonite BSK8 =20 Terry, could you decode PSK8? I switched back to PSK31. On my control receiver es was hart to decode PSK8. Will do some more tests. 73 Roland Am 13.09.2012 22:29, schrieb Terry GW0EZY: Graham =20 Just found it =E2=80=93 it is in SpectrumLab =E2=80=93 Digimode = terminal =20 73 Terry =20 From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org = [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Graham Sent: 13 September 2012 21:08 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: MF tonite BSK8 =20 =20 ''sounds good''. This is the INVISIBLE ROS that spooked MAL = hihi=20 =20 If you can here mf-2 , then the power is too high . Gerhard = dk6ni uses this mode , you might have qso=20 could be the first data qso on the new band ?=20 =20 I don't see any signal on the web-sdr , looking at 475 , small = trace hf , but what software has psk8 ? =20 73-G.. =20 =20 =20 From: Roland Bruestle=20 Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 8:48 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: MF tonite BSK8 =20 Graham, sounds good. Let me have a look at it and then a test. May be I can do it to morrow. Today, I am transmitting PSK8. 73 Roland Am 13.09.2012 19:06, schrieb Graham: Ok Roland=20 =20 That's a good Tx system ! much smaller than my Racal = MA1723=20 =20 If you have SDR then the ros-mf data modes can be used = directly with SDR , very little use has been made of them due to = the need for audio>rf or sdr Tx drive ..or by using = Transverter=20 =20 These modes are 100 Hz B/W MFSK , MF-2 is the same s/n = as wspr and MF-7 , the same data rate as psk32 , but some 10 = to 12 dB lower s/n ...part of the ROS data package , download the = same site as opera=20 =20 This was nearly a mistake as Joe has the Rx set to 7 only = , so when I switched to MF-1 , decodes stopped , the MF-7 was a = warm-up test ! =20 = http://rosmodem.wordpress.com/2011/02/14/the-blue-ribbon-fastest-live-dat= a-to-cross-the-atlantic/ =20 Good luck with the trials=20 =20 73-G.. =20 From: Roland Bruestle=20 Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 5:31 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: MF tonite BSK31 =20 Graham, I am using a Soft Rock SDR transceiver.=20 I modified a Soft Rock SDR 160m to 500kHz. Additionally I am using a CB PA changed to 500kHz with 80 W output. = Ok, this is not very linear. That's means any modulation mode is possible. Why are you asking? 73 Roland Am 13.09.2012 17:32, schrieb Graham: Roland=20 =20 Do you have transvertor ? can use any audio based mode ? =20 G.. =20 From: Roland Bruestle=20 Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 3:17 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: MF tonite BSK31 =20 hello MW, I am transmitting PSK31 on the transmitting frequency 475kHZ (not = dial). It's mainly a test. It's the first PSK31 transmission with this = equipment. 73=20 Roland DL3NDR =20 =20 =20 ------=_NextPart_000_01C1_01CD9209.B583B100 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Not  bad  Terry  !
 
Only  very low  traces showing  on g4wgt =20 grabbers  at the  moment ,
 
G.

Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 11:15 PM
Subject: RE: LF: MF tonite BSK8

Now=20 getting PSK31 decodes =E2=80=93 not solid copy but it=E2=80=99s a = copy!!

 

73=20 Terry

 

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@bl= acksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Roland=20 Bruestle
Sent: 13 September 2012 22:16
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
Subject:=20 Re: LF: MF tonite BSK8

 

Terry,
could you decode PSK8?
I switched back = to=20 PSK31.
On my control receiver es was hart to decode PSK8.
Will do = some=20 more tests.

73
Roland



Am 13.09.2012 22:29, = schrieb=20 Terry GW0EZY:

Graham

 

Just=20 found it =E2=80=93 it is in SpectrumLab =E2=80=93 Digimode = terminal

 

73=20 Terry

 

From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@bl= acksheep.org=20 [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_g= roup@blacksheep.org]=20 On Behalf Of Graham
Sent: 13 September 2012=20 21:08
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
Subject:=20 Re: LF: MF tonite BSK8

 

 

''sounds = good''.  =20 This  is the  INVISIBLE   ROS that  spooked = MAL =20 hihi

 

If you can  = here =20 mf-2  , then the  power  is  too  high  = .=20 Gerhard dk6ni  uses this  mode , you  might  = have =20 qso

could be the  = first =20 data  qso on the  new  band  ?=20

 

I don't see  = any =20 signal  on the  web-sdr , looking  at 475 , small  = trace  hf  , but  what  software  has  = psk8=20 ?

 

73-G..

 

 

 

From: Roland Bruestle=20

Sent: = Thursday,=20 September 13, 2012 8:48 PM

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20

Subject: Re: LF: = MF tonite=20 BSK8

 

Graham,
sounds good.
Let me have a look at = it and=20 then a test.
May be I  can do it to morrow.
Today, I am=20 transmitting PSK8.

73
Roland

Am 13.09.2012 19:06, = schrieb=20 Graham:

Ok Roland=20

 

That's  = a =20 good  Tx  system  !  much smaller  = than =20 my   Racal  MA1723

 

If you  = have =20 SDR  then  the  ros-mf  data  modes  = can=20 be  used directly  with  SDR   , very = little =20 use  has  been made of them  due to the  need = for =20 audio>rf  or  sdr  Tx  drive  ..or  = by  using  Transverter

 

These  = modes =20 are  100 Hz B/W    MFSK   ,  = MF-2 =20 is the  same  s/n as  wspr  and  MF-7  = ,=20 the  same data  rate  as  psk32 , but  = some =20 10 to 12 dB  lower s/n ...part of the  ROS data =20 package  , download  the  same  site  as = opera=20

 

This  = was =20 nearly  a  mistake  as  Joe has the  = Rx  set=20 to 7  only  , so  when I switched  to  = MF-1  ,=20 decodes  stopped , the  MF-7  was a  = warm-up =20 test  !

 

http://rosmodem.wordpress.com/2011/02/1= 4/the-blue-ribbon-fastest-live-data-to-cross-the-atlantic/

 

Good  = luck  with=20 the  trials

 

73-G..

 

From: Roland Bruestle=20

Sent: = Thursday,=20 September 13, 2012 5:31 PM

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20

Subject: Re: = LF: MF=20 tonite BSK31

 

Graham,
I am using a Soft Rock SDR = transceiver.
I=20 modified a Soft Rock SDR 160m to 500kHz.
 Additionally I am = using a=20 CB PA changed to 500kHz with 80 W output. Ok, this is not very=20 linear.
That's means any modulation mode is possible. Why are you = asking?

73
Roland

Am 13.09.2012 17:32, schrieb=20 Graham:

Roland=20

 

Do you  = have =20 transvertor ? can  use  any  audio  based mode = ?

 

G..

 

From: Roland=20 Bruestle

Sent: = Thursday,=20 September 13, 2012 3:17 PM

To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20

Subject: LF: = MF tonite=20 BSK31

 

hello MW,
I am transmitting PSK31 on the=20 transmitting frequency 475kHZ (not dial).

It's mainly a = test. It's=20 the first PSK31 transmission with this equipment.

73 =
Roland=20 DL3NDR

 

 

 

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