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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hello Wolf, group!Yes, I can see the signal as well. Similar signals are on 472,000 and 471,692kHz. I think, the are from distant TXs, but I don´t know their ID. I can see the signals on both my receiving stations, they are 2km distant each to other. If the conditions are very well, I can see and listen to a second harm from NDB "SA" on 472,460kHz (474,500-(2x1,020)). But it don´t disturbe me, becouse it is only a poor signal, of course. 73! 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X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_HOTMAIL_RCVD, HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d404c505fe8c830b1 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none --_e01ce23d-30ff-4a3f-a311-56a9cb2cd21c_ Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hello Wolf=2C group!Yes=2C I can see the signal as well. Similar signals ar= e on 472=2C000 and 471=2C692kHz. I think=2C the are from distant TXs=2C but= I don=B4t know their ID. I can see the signals on both my receiving statio= ns=2C they are 2km distant each to other. If the conditions are very well= =2C I can see and listen to a second harm from NDB "SA" on 472=2C460kHz (47= 4=2C500-(2x1=2C020)). But it don=B4t disturbe me=2C becouse it is only a po= or signal=2C of course. 73! Lubos=2C OK2BVG ******************************************* > Date: Sun=2C 23 Sep 2012 21:32:47 +0200 > From: dl4yhf@freenet.de > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=3B rsgb_lf_group@yahoogroups.co.uk > Subject: LF: Weak 'nighttime' carrier on 472.5 kHz ? >=20 > Dear group=2C > Do others hear (or see) a continous carrier on 472.5 kHz as well ? > I first thought it was 'local' but since it's only there in the=20 > nighttime=2C and even suffers from QSB like the 'wanted' signals it must= =20 > be from a distant transmitter. Don't think it's an intermod product in=20 > the receiver=2C because the signal is audible with an SDR-IQ and a Perseu= s=20 > as well - not just with the old IC706 which I use at DF0WD for reception= =20 > on MF. >=20 > If this frequency is audible / visible in other parts of Europe as well= =2C=20 > we may have to move the de-facto CW 'calling frequency' a bit... maybe=20 > by 50 Hz or so which makes it easy to tell an answering call from this=20 > carrier signal (which sometimes sounds like Morse but in a spectrogram=20 > one can see that it never disappears 'completely'). >=20 > 73=2C > Wolf DL4YHF / DF0WD > JO42FD . >=20 >=20 = --_e01ce23d-30ff-4a3f-a311-56a9cb2cd21c_ Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-2" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hello Wolf=2C group!
Yes=2C I can see the signal as well. Similar signa= ls are on 472=2C000 and 471=2C692kHz. I think=2C the are from distant TXs= =2C but I don=B4t know their ID. I can see the signals on both my receiving= stations=2C they are 2km distant  =3Beach to other. =3B
= If the conditions are very well=2C I can see and listen to a second harm fr= om NDB "SA" on 472=2C460kHz (474=2C500-(2x1=2C020)). But it don=B4t disturb= e me=2C becouse it is only a poor signal=2C of course.  =3B =3B
73!

Lubos=2C OK2BVG

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>=3B Date: Sun=2C 23 Sep 2012 21:32:47 +0200
>=3B From: dl= 4yhf@freenet.de
>=3B To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=3B rsgb_lf_group= @yahoogroups.co.uk
>=3B Subject: LF: Weak 'nighttime' carrier on 472.5= kHz ?
>=3B
>=3B Dear group=2C
>=3B Do others hear (or see)= a continous carrier on 472.5 kHz as well ?
>=3B I first thought it wa= s 'local' but since it's only there in the
>=3B nighttime=2C and even= suffers from QSB like the 'wanted' signals it must
>=3B be from a di= stant transmitter. Don't think it's an intermod product in
>=3B the r= eceiver=2C because the signal is audible with an SDR-IQ and a Perseus
&= gt=3B as well - not just with the old IC706 which I use at DF0WD for recept= ion
>=3B on MF.
>=3B
>=3B If this frequency is audible / v= isible in other parts of Europe as well=2C
>=3B we may have to move t= he de-facto CW 'calling frequency' a bit... maybe
>=3B by 50 Hz or so= which makes it easy to tell an answering call from this
>=3B carrier= signal (which sometimes sounds like Morse but in a spectrogram
>=3B = one can see that it never disappears 'completely').
>=3B
>=3B 73= =2C
>=3B Wolf DL4YHF / DF0WD
>=3B JO42FD .
>=3B
&g= t=3B
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