Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-me02.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id DEEBB38000084; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 18:12:56 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1TFXvs-0005sY-0p for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 23:12:16 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1TFXvr-0005sL-I4 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 23:12:15 +0100 Received: from smtpout4.wanadoo.co.uk ([80.12.242.68] helo=smtpout.wanadoo.co.uk) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1TFXvp-0000o5-KJ for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 22 Sep 2012 23:12:14 +0100 Received: from AGB ([2.26.45.164]) by mwinf5d49 with ME id 2NCC1k0053YXwSi03NCCuB; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 00:12:12 +0200 Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <41E179E8BC3D497AB344D966959A61C6@White> <505D0DB5.4080108@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <386BA5055A494FEC9164314A593DCB8D@White> <000901cd98a8$7cd20a00$76761e00$@com> <505DB5C3.2040901@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <972D0C66C74A41968A7D806701F5EDD6@AGB> <505E001A.4090301@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <505E2797.9050007@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> <10B742EE384D4C1EA636D70E6F507C85@AGB> <505E30D4.6090606@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> In-Reply-To: <505E30D4.6090606@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Sat, 22 Sep 2012 23:12:12 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8117.416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8117.416 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Oh dear , can you renew the kite permit ? Yes TH3 , but still , Im sure we can set up monitoring stations a little closer ... ? Let me know and will post in the Op group [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [80.12.242.68 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: e57013951ca4c86ddcf48e741efd2b78 Subject: Re: LF: VLF Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0124_01CD9917.B27F7F10" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d608a505e37e82560 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_0124_01CD9917.B27F7F10 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Oh dear , can you renew the kite permit ? =20 Yes TH3 , but still , Im sure we can set up monitoring stations a = little closer ... ? Let me know and will post in the Op group=20 73 -G.. From: Stefan Sch=E4fer=20 Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 10:42 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: VLF Am 22.09.2012 23:28, schrieb Graham:=20 Yes , ref , your 8K test's some time ago , I remember you = reached TH3 ??=20 You mean TF3HZ? Yes, and 4X1RF. Not only, here is the summary of my /p = tests https://dl.dropbox.com/u/19882028/VLF/VLF_11th_all.png But that was with 500W on a 300m vertical, not from this tiny antenna = i'm using here in JN49IK. The 300m kite permission expired in the end of = July. So now i'm limited to 100m again. The ERP is about 20 dB lower here, i.e. below 1 mW. I can't make much = more here, the isolators do only withstand 35 kV rms and i'm very close = to that... , Gary also had a trace from your signal. short range ... Kent ?=20 Well , OP4H test , ground tests have been carried out in the = usa and several miniature test ranges using the output from a = sound card and a remote Rx at the end of the garden , giving levels = round -45 -50 dB with 'real' noise . OK, in the near field this is much easier as we have seen. Anyway, good = start. 73, Stefan PS: So many emails today!! ------=_NextPart_000_0124_01CD9917.B27F7F10 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Oh dear  , can you  renew the  kite  permit = ? =20
 
Yes TH3 ,  but  still  , Im sure  we can  = set up=20 monitoring  stations a  little  closer  ... ?
 
Let me  know  and will  post in the  Op  = group=20
 
73 -G..

From: Stefan = Sch=E4fer
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 10:42 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Subject: LF: VLF


Am 22.09.2012 23:28, schrieb Graham:=20
 
Yes  , ref , your  8K  test's  some  = time=20 ago  , I remember  you  reached  TH3  ??=20

You mean TF3HZ? Yes, and 4X1RF. Not only, = here is the=20 summary of my /p tests https://d= l.dropbox.com/u/19882028/VLF/VLF_11th_all.png
But=20 that was with 500W on a 300m vertical, not from this tiny antenna i'm = using here=20 in JN49IK. The 300m kite permission expired in the end of July. So now = i'm=20 limited to 100m again.

The ERP is about 20 dB lower here, i.e. = below 1=20 mW. I can't make much more here, the isolators do only withstand 35 kV = rms and=20 i'm very close to that...

   , Gary  also  had a  trace  from = your  signal.
short  range  ...   Kent ?
 
Well  , OP4H test  , ground  tests  have = been =20 carried out  in the  usa  and several  =20 miniature  test  ranges  using the  = output  from=20 a  sound card and a remote  Rx  at the  end of = the =20 garden , giving  levels   round  -45 -50=20 dB with  'real'   noise  = .
OK, in the=20 near field this is much easier as we have seen. Anyway, good=20 start.


73, Stefan

PS: So many emails today!! = ------=_NextPart_000_0124_01CD9917.B27F7F10--