Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mk05.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 1AB3338000084; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 08:28:27 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1TAJUq-0005KZ-Qr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sat, 08 Sep 2012 12:46:44 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1TAJUq-0005KQ-2S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 08 Sep 2012 12:46:44 +0100 Received: from imr-da05.mx.aol.com ([205.188.105.147]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1TAJUn-0004DV-9e for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sat, 08 Sep 2012 12:46:42 +0100 Received: from mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com [172.29.51.199]) by imr-da05.mx.aol.com (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q88BkVNk026002; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 07:46:31 -0400 Received: from core-msc003a.r1000.mail.aol.com (core-msc003.r1000.mail.aol.com [172.29.233.201]) by mtaomg-db01.r1000.mx.aol.com (OMAG/Core Interface) with ESMTP id A5E41E000082; Sat, 8 Sep 2012 07:46:31 -0400 (EDT) References: <001701cd8d9f$1adcd910$50968b30$@com> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org In-Reply-To: <001701cd8d9f$1adcd910$50968b30$@com> X-MB-Message-Source: WebUI Received: from 77.7.52.173 by web-mmc-m07.sysops.aol.com (64.12.224.140) with HTTP (WebMailUI); Sat, 08 Sep 2012 07:46:31 -0400 MIME-Version: 1.0 From: Markus Vester X-MB-Message-Type: User X-Mailer: Webmail 36962-BASIC Cc: rsgb_lf_group@yahoogroups.co.uk Message-Id: <8CF5BCEB9105137-E70-52DF0@web-mmc-m07.sysops.aol.com> X-Originating-IP: [77.7.52.173] Date: Sat, 8 Sep 2012 07:46:31 -0400 (EDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=mx.aol.com; s=20110426; t=1347104791; bh=ppXWEofWvcCJANy5aRwYCb/sln6H2qyE8RLHP+J6Y5U=; h=From:To:Subject:Message-Id:Date:MIME-Version:Content-Type; b=ifXwLALajk3EPUTsk8YwdLn09A8wwqnZgMGPuIWX3uJpF04tv2izb5BQv3HyjbjFg gDqQBML3/p1Eqw5fMZfEelgJ7BtWVE6vN+UN73XBjiDiOb/PN8lL/WnfMO6KS23c0j K3Ckn8rOvkjd9H2J2rO2ckZvfVOwbEispEr2k7TQ= X-AOL-SCOLL-SCORE: 0:2:476965728:93952408 X-AOL-SCOLL-URL_COUNT: 0 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Terry, thanks for those detailed observations! I find the slow spectrogram very helpful. I used Stefan's sigs as a guide but once again wasn't sure whether to go above or below 478.7. So I ended up trying both and then settled on 478.67 kHz for a while.  I had actually noticed that EA5HVK was watching, but apparently "not enuff milliwatts" from this end to make it there in Op-4.  Best 73 to all,  Markus (DF6NM, located in JN59NJ69es) [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [205.188.105.147 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (markusvester[at]aol.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 0.0 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: 8d5e679c4ecb21aeba32cebcefaae7cb Subject: RE: LF: LF/MF night and weekend Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CF5BCEB9366747_E70_1146DA_web-mmc-m07.sysops.aol.com" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mtain-mk05.r1000.mx.aol.com ; domain : mx.aol.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d6189504b39ea072a X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----------MB_8CF5BCEB9366747_E70_1146DA_web-mmc-m07.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Terry, thanks for those detailed observations! I find the slow spectrogram= =C2=A0very helpful. I=C2=A0used Stefan's sigs as a=C2=A0guide but once again wasn't sure whethe= r to=C2=A0go above or below=C2=A0478.7. So I ended up trying=C2=A0both and = then settled=C2=A0on 478.67 kHz for a while. =C2=A0 I had actually noticed that EA5HVK was watching, but apparently "not enuff = milliwatts" from this end to make it there in Op-4. =C2=A0 Best 73 to all, =C2=A0 Markus (DF6NM, located=C2=A0in JN59NJ69es) -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----=20 Von: Terry GW0EZY <gw0ezy@sky.com> An: rsgb_lf_group <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> Verschickt: Sa, 8 Sept 2012 8:53 am Betreff: RE: LF: LF/MF night and weekend Stefan =C2=A0 Attached my decodes and SL grab for last night. =C2=A0 First decode at 18:14 UTC (grayline at English coast). Peak S/N +4 dB. Last= decode 05:00 UTC (grayline approximately at HB9). SL still showing a trace= at 0700 UTC. =C2=A0 First time copy for me (on 477) of =C2=A0DF6NM, DF2NV. I noticed (on SL) th= at Marcus changed frequency in the early evening first HF of your signal th= en LF. =C2=A0 I will increase the scroll rate on SL to pick up more detail. There are som= e interesting blips on the screen that could be other =C2=A0transmissions t= oo short to see in detail with this scroll rate. =C2=A0 https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10326787/GW0EZY_477-OP4.jpg =C2=A0 73 Terry GW0EZY =E2=80=93 continuing to monitor 477 Op4. =C2=A0 From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacks= heep.org] On Behalf Of Stefan Sch=C3=A4fer Sent: 07 September 2012 16:37 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Subject: Re: LF: LF/MF night and weekend =C2=A0 MF! I just started my TX in OP4 mode on 477 kHz dial. Will run in until sunday = evening. BTW the PA was not damaged, it was just a under-dimensioned fuse w= hich i used for the first tests and forgot to replace it by its actual valu= e. Now the transmission should work without interruptions, i hope. Would be interesting to have some 24 hour monitoring data of the complete s= aturday, so if you like to take a part in this "study", pse run the RX duri= ng that time :-) Tnx and 73 to all, Stefan/DK7FC ----------MB_8CF5BCEB9366747_E70_1146DA_web-mmc-m07.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8"
Terry, thanks for those detailed observations! I fi= nd the slow spectrogram very helpful.

I used Stefan's sigs as a guide but once again wasn't sure w= hether to go above or below 478.7. So I ended up trying both= and then settled on 478.67 kHz for a while.
 
I had actually noticed that EA5HVK was watching, but apparently "not e= nuff milliwatts" from this end to make it there in Op-4.
 
Best 73 to all,
 
Markus
(DF6NM, located in JN59NJ69es)
-----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----
Von: Terry GW0EZY <gw0ezy@sky.com>
An: rsgb_lf_group <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Verschickt: Sa, 8 Sept 2012 8:53 am
Betreff: RE: LF: LF/MF night and weekend

Stefa= n
 = ;
Attac= hed my decodes and SL grab for last night.
 = ;
First= decode at 18:14 UTC (grayline at English coast). Peak S/N +4 dB. Last deco= de 05:00 UTC (grayline approximately at HB9). SL still showing a trace at 0= 700 UTC.
 = ;
First= time copy for me (on 477) of  DF6NM, DF2NV. I noticed (on SL) that Ma= rcus changed frequency in the early evening first HF of your signal then LF= .
 = ;
I wil= l increase the scroll rate on SL to pick up more detail. There are some int= eresting blips on the screen that could be other  transmissions too sh= ort to see in detail with this scroll rate.
 = ;
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/10326787/GW0EZY_477-OP4.jpg
 = ;
73 Te= rry GW0EZY =E2=80=93 continuing to monitor 477 Op4.
 = ;
From: owner-rs= gb_lf_group@blacksheep.org [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of = Stefan Sch=C3=A4fer
Sent: 07 September 2012 16:37
To: rsgb_lf_group@bl= acksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: LF/MF night and weekend
 
MF!

I just started my TX in OP4 mode on 477 kHz dial. Will run in= until sunday evening. BTW the PA was not damaged, it was just a und= er-dimensioned fuse which i used for the first tests and forgot to replace = it by its actual value. Now the transmission should work without interrupti= ons, i hope.

Would be interesting to have some 24 hour monitoring data of the complete s= aturday, so if you like to take a part in this "study", pse run the RX duri= ng that time :-)


Tnx and 73 to all, Stefan/DK7FC

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