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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Clemens, Stefan is actually transmitting on 478.70 kHz... I would generally prefer exchanging real RF frequencies rather than a "dial frequency" setting, which I find more confusing than helpful. It would also be nice if the web reports would mention the precise receive frequency. After all, we wanna be real radio amateurs and not black box users (aka appliance operators ;-). 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I would generally prefer exchanging real RF frequencies rather than a = "dial frequency" setting, which I find more confusing than helpful. It = would also be nice if the web reports would mention the precise receive = frequency. After all, we wanna be real radio amateurs and not black box = users (aka appliance operators ;-). Best 73 and good luck, Markus (DF6NM) From: Clemens Paul=20 Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 8:12 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: LF/MF night and weekend >I just started my TX in OP4 mode on 477 kHz dial. Will run in until = sunday evening Stefan, wouldn't it be better to choose a slightly different qrg to avoid = interfering with the carrier of the 'RP' NDB beacon (which is BTW masking your signal here)? Perhaps 500Hz up or down would be fine. 73 Clemens DL4RAJ ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Stefan Sch=E4fer=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Friday, September 07, 2012 5:37 PM Subject: Re: LF: LF/MF night and weekend MF! I just started my TX in OP4 mode on 477 kHz dial. Will run in until = sunday evening. BTW the PA was not damaged, it was just a = under-dimensioned fuse which i used for the first tests and forgot to = replace it by its actual value. Now the transmission should work without = interruptions, i hope. Would be interesting to have some 24 hour monitoring data of the = complete saturday, so if you like to take a part in this "study", pse = run the RX during that time :-) Tnx and 73 to all, Stefan/DK7FC Am 07.09.2012 14:19, schrieb Graham:=20 First demonstration that what go's East , not always go's = West !=20 Spectacular s/n levels in the Moscow area but nothing showing=20 TA ?=20 G.. G.., It was probably due to thunderstorms in the US and SA. YV7MAE had = to QRT due to heavy lightnings... E-Mail ist virenfrei. Von AVG =FCberpr=FCft - www.avg.de Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virendatenbank: 2437/5254 - Ausgabedatum: = 07.09.2012=20 ------=_NextPart_000_000E_01CD8E0B.0D024750 Content-Type: text/html; charset="ISO-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Clemens,
 
Stefan is actually transmitting on = 478.70=20 kHz...
 
I would generally = prefer exchanging real RF=20 frequencies rather than a "dial frequency" setting, which I find = more=20 confusing than helpful. It would also be nice if the web reports would = mention=20 the precise receive frequency. After all, we wanna be real radio = amateurs and=20 not black box users (aka appliance operators ;-).
 
Best 73 and good luck,
Markus (DF6NM)
 
Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 8:12 PM
Subject: Re: LF: LF/MF night and weekend

>I just started my TX in OP4 mode on 477 kHz dial. = Will=20 run in until sunday evening
 
Stefan,
 
wouldn't it be better to choose a slightly different qrg to = avoid=20 interfering with the carrier
of  the 'RP' NDB beacon (which is BTW masking your signal = here)?
Perhaps 500Hz up or down would be fine.
 
73
Clemens
DL4RAJ
 
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Stefan = Sch=E4fer
Sent: Friday, September 07, = 2012 5:37=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: LF/MF night = and=20 weekend

MF!

I just started my TX in OP4 mode on = 477=20 kHz dial. Will run in until sunday evening. BTW the PA was = not=20 damaged, it was just a under-dimensioned fuse which i used for the = first tests=20 and forgot to replace it by its actual value. Now the transmission = should work=20 without interruptions, i hope.

Would be interesting to have = some 24=20 hour monitoring data of the complete saturday, so if you like to take = a part=20 in this "study", pse run the RX during that time :-)


Tnx = and 73 to=20 all, Stefan/DK7FC





Am 07.09.2012 14:19, schrieb = Graham:=20
First  demonstration  that  what  = go's =20 East  , not  always  go's   West !=20

Spectacular s/n levels  in the  Moscow   = area=20 but  nothing  showing
TA ?=20

G..


G.., It was probably due to = thunderstorms=20 in the US and SA. YV7MAE had to QRT due to heavy = lightnings...

E-Mail ist = virenfrei.
Von AVG=20 =FCberpr=FCft - www.avg.de
Version: 2012.0.2197=20 / Virendatenbank: 2437/5254 - Ausgabedatum: 07.09.2012=20

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