Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mk06.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 6571D38000094; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 18:03:34 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1TFuGB-000488-Hr for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 23:02:43 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1TFuGB-00047z-0S for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 23:02:43 +0100 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.210.211]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1TFuG9-0005Rn-Cr for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 23 Sep 2012 23:02:41 +0100 Received: from freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de (freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.29.204]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q8NM2eCF004915 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Mon, 24 Sep 2012 00:02:40 +0200 Received: from [129.206.22.206] (pc206.iup.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.22.206]) by freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.11.20060308/8.11.2) with ESMTP id q8NM2eHo029702; Mon, 24 Sep 2012 00:02:40 +0200 Message-ID: <505F86FA.2030007@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Mon, 24 Sep 2012 00:02:34 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Stefan_Sch=E4fer?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: Chris Gomoiu CC: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Spam-Score: -3.1 (---) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hello Chris, I wonder if there could be an improvement by using the SpecLab noise reduction technics in series to the audio line to the WSPR program. Would you like to try that? For me it makes no sense, because Markus is +10 dB S/N here ;-) [...] Content analysis details: (-3.1 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -2.3 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, medium trust [129.206.210.211 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.8 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: 6be9408bcc63ba5aab6f1e66e2d5b7ce Subject: LF: SL NB in WSPR-32 ? Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------060209010806070206030003" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d618a505f8735452e X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------060209010806070206030003 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Chris, I wonder if there could be an improvement by using the SpecLab noise reduction technics in series to the audio line to the WSPR program. Would you like to try that? For me it makes no sense, because Markus is +10 dB S/N here ;-) You're already running the EU60 SL instance. This one adds a bandpass of about 2.5 kHz width to the wideband spectrum of your receivers in 4X and YO. Behind this filter there is the Noiseblanker which improves QRSS/DFCW reception by _at least_ 6 dB at nighttime, as we know. If you put the sound output of this SL instance to VAC2-in and define it VAC2-out as the standard audio device, then it should work. Of course the sound output in SL must be enabled. If WSPR limits the input spectrum to 200 Hz, like we do in the IQ soundfile generated by sndinput, then there can't be adequate sferic blanking because 200 Hz is to narrow. Sferic blanking may be not such an advantage on HF, at least on the higher frequencies. It would be interesting to see the difference. Maybe it makes things worse but i can't imagine. What do you and Markus and others think? 73, Stefan/DK7FC --------------060209010806070206030003 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Hello Chris,

I wonder if there could be an improvement by using the SpecLab noise reduction technics in series to the audio line to the WSPR program.

Would you like to try that? For me it makes no sense, because Markus is +10 dB S/N here ;-)

You're already running the EU60 SL instance. This one adds a bandpass of about 2.5 kHz width to the wideband spectrum of your receivers in 4X and YO. Behind this filter there is the Noiseblanker which improves QRSS/DFCW reception by at least 6 dB at nighttime, as we know. If you put the sound output of this SL instance to VAC2-in and define it VAC2-out as the standard audio device, then it should work. Of course the sound output in SL must be enabled.

If WSPR limits the input spectrum to 200 Hz, like we do in the IQ soundfile generated by sndinput, then there can't be adequate sferic blanking because 200 Hz is to narrow. Sferic blanking may be not such an advantage on HF, at least on the higher frequencies.

It would be interesting to see the difference. Maybe it makes things worse but i can't imagine.

What do you and Markus and others think?

73, Stefan/DK7FC

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