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The government has given us the frequency together with some rules and what we do with it is mainly our decision. That means, we radio hams have to find a good solution. 73 Roland Am 20.09.2012 07:59, schrieb Roman RW3ADB: > > Hi Mal, LF, > Nice to copy u, OM. > The CW is a primary mode on the any band. > The exclusive pass band for CW only as usual on the low freq's of > pass-band. > The life is not stdb on the one place and more people is not use a CW > only. > The new mode like OPERA for example so interesting and more easy to > use then QRSS for DX. > > TO ALL: > It is likely that there is a document which governs currently activity > amateur stations in these bands in England and Germany or in the other > countries.. > Can anybody tell me where they are available? > > Roman RW3ADB. >> >> > 19 Сентябрь 2012 г. 23:43:17 пользовате­ль mal hamilton >> (g3kevmal@talktalk.net) написал: >> > > Forget about specific modes at present and frequency slot >> allocation.. Ask >> > for an allocation of 472 - 479 Khz to be compatible with EU or more >> spectrum >> > if you can get it. >> > Because of QRM from other services depending where you happen to >> reside in >> > the World it is difficult to specify frequency slots for specific >> modes >> > that suits all. >> > I am surprised the band is not CW only since that was the primary >> mode used >> > on the band in the past by the Marine authorities. >> > de mal/g3kev >> > > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Sabine DL1DBC" >> > To: >> > Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 7:18 PM >> > Subject: Re: LF: The band-plans for new bands in Russia >> > > > Hi Roman, >> > > >> > > take into account a segment for the WSPR mode with 477 kHz dial >> > > frequency and 478,5 kHz TX frequency. I am really looking forward to >> > > receive your WSPR signals! >> > > >> > > 73 >> > > Sabine, DL1DBC >> > > >> > > Am Mittwoch, den 19.09.2012, 22:29 +0400 schrieb Roman RW3ADB: >> > > > Liebe kameraden, genossen und funkamateure! >> > > > >> > > > We are faced in front of daunting task! With our modest forces, we >> > should make a band plan for the range of 9 kHz and 472 kHz for the >> use of >> > these bands in the Russian Federation. >> > > > Without any doubt, it is very desirable for us to make the >> band-pass the >> > same one used in Europe. >> > > > As the final band plan for these bands has not developed, we >> are ready >> > to listen to any reasonable offers, so take them into account when >> applying >> > our wishes to the office of the Telecommunications. >> > > > >> > > > >From the 136.su community to the world wide, >> > > > Roman, RW3ADB. >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > --------------030102060605040508080304 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit
Roman,
I don't think, that there are any from the government.
The government has given us the frequency together with some rules
and what we do with it is mainly our decision. That means, we radio hams have to find a good solution.

73 Roland

Am 20.09.2012 07:59, schrieb Roman RW3ADB:

Hi Mal, LF,
Nice to copy u, OM.
The CW is a primary mode on the any band.
The exclusive pass band for CW only as usual on the low freq's of pass-band.
The life is not stdb on the one place and more people is not use a CW only.
The new mode like OPERA    for example so interesting and more easy to use then QRSS for DX.

TO ALL:
It is likely that there is a document which governs currently activity amateur stations in these bands in England and Germany or in the other countries..
Can anybody tell me where they are available?

Roman RW3ADB.

> 19 Сентябрь 2012 г. 23:43:17 пользовате­ль mal hamilton (g3kevmal@talktalk.net) написал:
> > Forget about specific modes at present and frequency slot allocation.. Ask
> for an allocation of 472 - 479 Khz to be compatible with EU or more spectrum
> if you can get it.
> Because of QRM from other services depending where you happen to reside in
> the World it is difficult to specify frequency slots for specific modes
> that suits all.
> I am surprised the band is not CW only since that was the primary mode used
> on the band in the past by the Marine authorities.
> de mal/g3kev
> > ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sabine DL1DBC" <sabine@dl1dbc.net>
> To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 7:18 PM
> Subject: Re: LF: The band-plans for new bands in Russia
> > > Hi Roman,
> >
> > take into account a segment for the WSPR mode with 477 kHz dial
> > frequency and 478,5 kHz TX frequency. I am really looking forward to
> > receive your WSPR signals!
> >
> > 73
> > Sabine, DL1DBC
> >
> > Am Mittwoch, den 19.09.2012, 22:29 +0400 schrieb Roman RW3ADB:
> > > Liebe kameraden, genossen und funkamateure!
> > >
> > > We are faced in front of daunting task! With our modest forces, we
> should make a band plan for the range of 9 kHz and 472 kHz for the use of
> these bands in the Russian Federation.
> > > Without any doubt, it is very desirable for us to make the band-pass the
> same one used in Europe.
> > > As the final band plan for these bands has not developed, we are ready
> to listen to any reasonable offers, so take them into account when applying
> our wishes to the office of the Telecommunications.
> > >
> > > >From the 136.su community to the world wide,
> > > Roman, RW3ADB.
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
> >
> >





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