Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mp02.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 8FE3A3800008E; Wed, 12 Sep 2012 08:44:59 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1TBmIN-00059R-IE for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Sep 2012 13:43:55 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1TBmIN-00059I-3G for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Sep 2012 13:43:55 +0100 Received: from relay.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.100.212]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1TBmIL-0007zN-3u for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Wed, 12 Sep 2012 13:43:54 +0100 Received: from freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de (freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.29.204]) by relay.uni-heidelberg.de (8.14.1/8.14.1) with ESMTP id q8CCho4m015630 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Wed, 12 Sep 2012 14:43:50 +0200 Received: from [129.206.22.206] (pc206.iup.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.22.206]) by freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.11.20060308/8.11.2) with ESMTP id q8CChn8X025361; Wed, 12 Sep 2012 14:43:49 +0200 Message-ID: <505082C4.9040702@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 14:40:36 +0200 From: =?ISO-8859-15?Q?Stefan_Sch=E4fer?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org, Edgar J Twining X-Spam-Score: -1.1 (-) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Message from Joe/K1JT. BTW i don't know if it is OK for Joe that his email is forwarded to everyone in the web! But i think it would be OK for him to forward it to a limited number of active radio amateurs operating in the 137 kHz band. So if you make this email public in the web, it is your decision! [...] Content analysis details: (-1.1 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [129.206.100.212 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.4 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: 5934134de2d93cab1d5fc440b67de82f Subject: LF: Fwd: Re: Ideas for a slower WSPR for the 137 khz band Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------030001040205020600010104" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.6 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TAG_EXISTS_TBODY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1dc146505083ca5062 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------030001040205020600010104 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-15; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by relay.uni-heidelberg.de id q8CCho4m015630 Message from Joe/K1JT. BTW i don't know if it is OK for Joe that his email is forwarded to=20 everyone in the web! But i think it would be OK for him to forward it to=20 a limited number of active radio amateurs operating in the 137 kHz band.=20 So if you make this email public in the web, it is your decision! 73, Stefan/DK7FC -------- Original-Nachricht -------- Betreff: Re: Ideas for a slower WSPR for the 137 khz band Datum: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 08:28:47 -0400 Von: Joe Taylor An: Stefan Sch=E4fer Hi Stefan, Thanks for your interesting message. A super-slow version of WSPR (or something like WSPR) should be possible, and I might be able to devote some time to writing the necessary code. You should know that I will not be able to get to it for several months, however. Perhaps near the end of this year. One question for you: It seems to me that propagation at 137 kHz (and possibly also 475 kHz) is generally stable enough to make very slow BPSK a better modulation scheme than the 4-FSK used in today's WSPR. Do you agree? -- 73, Joe, K1JT --------------030001040205020600010104 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-15 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by relay.uni-heidelberg.de id q8CCho4m015630 Message from Joe/K1JT.

BTW i don't know if it is OK for Joe that his email is forwarded to everyone in the web! But i think it would be OK for him to forward it to a limited number of active radio amateurs operating in the 137 kHz band. So if you make this email public in the web, it is your decision!
73, Stefan/DK7FC

-------- Original-Nachricht --------
Betreff: = Re: Ideas for a slower WSPR for the 137 khz band
Datum: Wed, 12 Sep 2012 08:28:47 -0400
Von: Joe Taylor <joe@Princeton.EDU>
An: Stefan Sch=E4fer <Stefan.Schaefer@iup.uni-he= idelberg.de>


Hi Stefan,

Thanks for your interesting message.

A super-slow version of WSPR (or something like WSPR) should be=20
possible, and I might be able to devote some time to writing the=20
necessary code.  You should know that I will not be able to get to it=20
for several months, however.  Perhaps near the end of this year.

One question for you: It seems to me that propagation at 137 kHz (and=20
possibly also 475 kHz) is generally stable enough to make very slow BPSK=20
a better modulation scheme than the 4-FSK used in today's WSPR.  Do you=20
agree?

	-- 73, Joe, K1JT
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