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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Am 12.09.2012 00:50, schrieb Graham: > Interesting > JA , only a few more CM on the map :- ) But the RX station must have excellent low local noise levels, which may be a bit harder in Tokyo city. > Looking on the map the Path to VK passes the east coast of the > Med , India , Indonesia and once past Saudi , then its a > water path .. the signal at 4x1 must be a good indication > as to that path ? I think not really. 4X is much to close to say something about a 12000+ km path. Local QRN conds may be quite different. The thing is also that i'm profiting from the sunny side on the backside of the receive station, when a detection is achieved just before the sunrise on the RX side. Detections in VK have always been to that time for me. But 4X is in the middle of the dark period to that time and can receive QRN from anywhere... It was the same effect in OP32, one hour ago. UA0SNV got an SNR as good as e.g. R7NT because the sunrise was very close in UA0. The one and only chance in one night. [...] Content analysis details: (-1.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [129.206.100.212 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.3 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: 3efbf4053c1a70bbeb6c0a0cc657f05e Subject: Re: LF: UA0SNV Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="------------080906040604050604010908" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.0 required=5.0 tests=HTML_20_30,HTML_MESSAGE, HTML_TITLE_EMPTY autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d4109504fc75c3833 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --------------080906040604050604010908 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Am 12.09.2012 00:50, schrieb Graham: > Interesting > JA , only a few more CM on the map :- ) But the RX station must have excellent low local noise levels, which may be a bit harder in Tokyo city. > Looking on the map the Path to VK passes the east coast of the > Med , India , Indonesia and once past Saudi , then its a > water path .. the signal at 4x1 must be a good indication > as to that path ? I think not really. 4X is much to close to say something about a 12000+ km path. Local QRN conds may be quite different. The thing is also that i'm profiting from the sunny side on the backside of the receive station, when a detection is achieved just before the sunrise on the RX side. Detections in VK have always been to that time for me. But 4X is in the middle of the dark period to that time and can receive QRN from anywhere... It was the same effect in OP32, one hour ago. UA0SNV got an SNR as good as e.g. R7NT because the sunrise was very close in UA0. The one and only chance in one night. > Last year , there was 136 rx in India ? , these where good > signals ? but that was a temporary station ? Oh, Markus did the effort to set up a website, see http://df6nm.bplaced.net/LF/vu_df6nm/ > what about Reunion island , there is ros / opera activity from > there , may be LF could email and ask ? Yes, that would be a good job for you! :-) I've done the same procedure with YV7MAE, that's why we have a monitoring station in SA now, the one and only so far! A nice project but you'll need to invest much time to really convince people. > Pity you stopped sending , I see Jose is monitoring 136 OP32 I saw that and started again. Hopefully he is patient. There was no success in the first attempt. Not sure about his RX on LF? But UA0AET got even better results: *23:14 136 DK7FC de UA0AET Op32 5330 km -32 dB in Krasnoyarsk* I'll go on for 1 or 2 sequences, as long as EA5HVK is monitoring... 73, Stefan/DK7FC > --------------080906040604050604010908 Content-Type: text/html; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-MIME-Autoconverted: from 8bit to quoted-printable by relay.uni-heidelberg.de id q8BNK4v3030412
Am 12.09.2012 00:50, schrieb Graham:
Interesting
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JA , only=C2=A0 a=C2=A0 few=C2=A0 more=C2=A0 CM=C2=A0 on the=C2=A0= map=C2=A0 :- )
But the RX station must have excellent low local noise levels, which may be a bit harder in Tokyo city.

=C2=A0
Looking=C2=A0 on the map=C2=A0 the=C2=A0 Path to=C2=A0 VK passes=C2= =A0the=C2=A0 east=C2=A0 coast=C2=A0 of the=C2=A0 Med , =C2=A0 India , Indonesia =C2=A0 and once past=C2=A0 Sa= udi , then=C2=A0 its=C2=A0 a=C2=A0 water=C2=A0 path ..=C2=A0 the signal at=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 4x1=C2=A0= =C2=A0 must be a=C2=A0 good=C2=A0 indication=C2=A0 as=C2=A0 to=C2=A0 that=C2=A0 path=C2=A0 ?
I think not really. 4X is much to close to say something about a 12000+ km path. Local QRN conds may be quite different.
The thing is also that i'm profiting from the sunny side on the backside of the receive station, when a detection is achieved just before the sunrise on the RX side. Detections in VK have always been to that time for me. But 4X is in the middle of the dark period to that time and can receive QRN from anywhere...
It was the same effect in OP32, one hour ago. UA0SNV got an SNR as good as e.g. R7NT because the sunrise was very close in UA0. The one and only chance in one night.

=C2=A0
Last=C2=A0 year=C2=A0 , there=C2=A0 was=C2=A0 136=C2=A0 rx in Indi= a ?=C2=A0, these=C2=A0 where=C2=A0 good=C2=A0 signals=C2=A0 ?=C2=A0 but that=C2=A0 was a=C2=A0 temporary=C2=A0= station ?
Oh, Markus did the effort to set up a website, see http://df6nm.bplaced.net/LF/vu_df6nm/

=C2=A0
what=C2=A0 about=C2=A0 Reunion=C2=A0=C2=A0 island , there=C2=A0 is= ros / opera=C2=A0 activity=C2=A0 from there , may=C2=A0 be LF could=C2=A0 email and=C2=A0 ask =C2=A0?
Yes, that would be a good job for you! :-)
I've done the same procedure with YV7MAE, that's why we have a monitoring station in SA now, the one and only so far! A nice project but you'll need to invest much time to really convince people.

=C2=A0
Pity you=C2=A0 stopped=C2=A0 sending=C2=A0 , I see=C2=A0 Jose=C2=A0= is=C2=A0 monitoring=C2=A0=C2=A0 136 OP32
I saw that and started again. Hopefully he is patient. There was no success in the first attempt. Not sure about his RX on LF?
But UA0AET got even better results: 23:14=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 136 DK7FC = de UA0AET Op32 5330 km -32 dB in Krasnoyarsk
I'll go on for 1 or 2 sequences, as long as EA5HVK is monitoring...

73, Stefan/DK7FC


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