Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-dl05.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 0C500380000A2; Mon, 10 Sep 2012 19:14:16 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1TBDA9-0006RL-Cn for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 00:13:05 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1TBDA8-0006RC-Lv for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 00:13:04 +0100 Received: from relay2.uni-heidelberg.de ([129.206.210.211]) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtps (TLSv1:AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1TBDA6-0007Ef-Du for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 00:13:03 +0100 Received: from freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de (freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.29.204]) by relay2.uni-heidelberg.de (8.13.8/8.13.8) with ESMTP id q8AND1d7027681 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA bits=256 verify=NO); Tue, 11 Sep 2012 01:13:01 +0200 Received: from [129.206.22.206] (pc206.iup.uni-heidelberg.de [129.206.22.206]) by freitag.iup.uni-heidelberg.de (8.12.11.20060308/8.11.2) with ESMTP id q8AND1Iw032672; Tue, 11 Sep 2012 01:13:01 +0200 Message-ID: <504E733E.5000208@iup.uni-heidelberg.de> Date: Tue, 11 Sep 2012 01:09:50 +0200 From: =?UTF-8?B?U3RlZmFuIFNjaMOkZmVy?= User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows; U; Windows NT 6.1; de; rv:1.9.1.8) Gecko/20100227 Thunderbird/3.0.3 MIME-Version: 1.0 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org CC: Edgar J Twining References: <504E0AD2.7020205@freenet.de> <001b01cd8f77$a9b4a1c0$0501a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> In-Reply-To: X-Spam-Score: -2.7 (--) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: It's a pity that there is no slow-WSPR, e.g. needing 32 minutes or so. If WSPR (2 minutes FSK) is about as efficient as OP8 ( i heared so), then it should be a real alternative to the slow DX modes on LF but not on MF! [...] Content analysis details: (-2.7 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -2.3 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_MED RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, medium trust [129.206.210.211 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.4 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain X-Scan-Signature: c1f72e5acb1277e013f90c915ad7ad68 Subject: LF: slow WSPR? Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d4ad3504e74482ba4 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none It's a pity that there is no slow-WSPR, e.g. needing 32 minutes or so. If WSPR (2 minutes FSK) is about as efficient as OP8 ( i heared so), then it should be a real alternative to the slow DX modes on LF but not on MF! There is a software that plays recorded audio files in a faster mode, so that QRSS becomes audible. VE2IQ has reported to me last year about it but i don't remember the name. Would it be possible to make our own slow WSPR by using that software and playing a 32 minute manipulated WSPR at 16x speed, feeding it to the normal WSPR rx software? The slower code could be generated outside the program. Would that be a useful test or do i miss something? 73, Stefan/DK7FC Am 10.09.2012 19:26, schrieb Graham: > May be Mal > > But once again Jim has the answer to this problem ..if you can > find his articles after Google trashed the uk500khz news group , > > I think Jose R predicts a 6 dB gain by changing to PSK from > the Opera on/off keying but that would prevent most of the > LH/MF usage > > G.. >