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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi Wolf, If they need some help, i would answer some of their questions, if they have some. So if you and they like, give them my adress. It will be not so easy to get far enough away from the influence of that transmit antenna. Maybe they need to detune it to make the influence of QRM lower. And they should use a band pass filter combined with an attenuator in the RX line. For us, that's all old stuff and well known of course. I remember similar problems from the kite antenna experiments, even in a quiet location, it was difficult to copy HE3OM on LF although they were copied at JA7NI :-) [...] Content analysis details: (-1.1 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.7 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_LOW RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, low trust [129.206.100.212 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.4 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain X-Scan-Signature: c1f72e5acb1277e013f90c915ad7ad68 Subject: Re: LF: DK0SWF- =?UTF-8?B?d2hhdMK0cyB0aGUgcHJvYmxlbQ==?= Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8; format=flowed Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1db405504c902138ae X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Hi Wolf, If they need some help, i would answer some of their questions, if they=20 have some. So if you and they like, give them my adress. It will be not so easy to get far enough away from the influence of that=20 transmit antenna. Maybe they need to detune it to make the influence of=20 QRM lower. And they should use a band pass filter combined with an=20 attenuator in the RX line. For us, that's all old stuff and well known=20 of course. I remember similar problems from the kite antenna=20 experiments, even in a quiet location, it was difficult to copy HE3OM on=20 LF although they were copied at JA7NI :-) 73, Stefan/DK7FC Am 09.09.2012 14:27, schrieb Dr. Wolf Ostwald: > hi ! > Instead of looking at the installation from the experimenters view, i=20 > hear someone crying and whining. All things go thru evolution and of=20 > course the "know it alls" never make mistakes or are less than perfect=20 > ;-) . > The ex-SWR site has lots of room and an receiving array surely can be=20 > next. The activating guys had to work hard to get access to the=20 > facility and one should give them time to proceed. They should be=20 > granted support instead words of criticism from an "rocking chair"=20 > position. I=C2=B4d rather think twice before using the "whip" > > that`s my two pence worth de wolf df2py