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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hello Lee, Thank you for giving an imagination how it looks on your RX side. You are in a good position if you can realise a separated earth and that distance to the house. I would do so as well if i would have the chance. OK, does that mean you have much lower QRM now due to the transformers? 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You=20 are in a good position if you can realise a separated earth and that=20 distance to the house. I would do so as well if i would have the chance. OK, does that mean you have much lower QRM now due to the transformers?=20 We will see :-) Also many thanks for the useful information about the core. I found it=20 for 0.99 =80 at=20 http://www.reichelt.de/Amidon-Doppellochkerne/BN-73-202/3/index.html?;ACT= ION=3D3;LA=3D2;ARTICLE=3D32314;GROUPID=3D3188;artnr=3DBN+73-202;SID=3D32f= Rwi5qwQASAAACIkJWk502917f27b61570f9f85c5c030e3f831 That gives me new motivation to start some new tests and experiments :-) Thank you for running the PC for a longer time. I will then make a plot=20 over 24 hours soon. Will be interesting. 73, Stefan/DK7FC Am 05.09.2012 19:48, schrieb Lee Hudson: > Hi Stefan, > > Setup here is fairly straight forward. > MiniWhip @ 5m height, 12m away from the house. RX is a Perseus. > > QTH is on the southern edge of Harrogates residential area. > > Noise level here is actually quite high. Most of which is radiated from= the > house wiring. I've experimented with various ways of reducing this nois= e > over the last 4 years and the best seems to be isolating the main feede= r at > both ends. The Miniwhip is powered via a solar charged battery and a go= od > earth at its base. The difference with and without the above is 20dB! T= his > makes the difference between hearing nothing, and almost everything HI! > > Isolation transformers are 7 bifilar turns on a BN-73-202 core. > > Since you are plotting consistent data, please ignore any reports from = last > night as one of the isolators was in use on another project. Those rece= ived > during the daytime today and forward are OK. > > I shall leave everything running so you can gather as much data as you = need. > > 73, > Lee M0LMH. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Stefan Sch=E4f= er > Sent: 05 September 2012 16:38 > To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org > Subject: Re: LF: MF acty > > > Am 05.09.2012 17:19, schrieb Stefan Sch=E4fer: > =20 >> [...]but as soon as the sunrise comes, no signals are detected in the >> UK while the levels are 25 dB above the decode limit in the night. >> =20 > Ehm, no, i've concentrated to much on the plot of G0KTN while writing > that. M0LMH even get's daytime decodes on the lower limit, maybe having > a somehow better RX-system+location(?)... > > 73, Stefan > > > =20