Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-df05.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 608BC38000085; Sun, 9 Sep 2012 07:56:55 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1TAg7N-00064V-LF for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Sep 2012 12:56:01 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1TAg7M-00064M-Ud for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Sep 2012 12:56:00 +0100 Received: from smtpout1.wanadoo.co.uk ([80.12.242.29] helo=smtpout.wanadoo.co.uk) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1TAg7I-0000Bs-TI for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Sun, 09 Sep 2012 12:55:59 +0100 Received: from AGB ([2.26.8.221]) by mwinf5d15 with ME id wzvv1j00F4m828203zvw2d; Sun, 09 Sep 2012 13:55:56 +0200 Message-ID: <39D86F18C0FB49E685DF94844134C52B@AGB> From: "Graham" To: References: <504B9F8F.6000201@kpnmail.nl> <8CF5C223C9A9F15-1050-2CBFF@angweb-usm022.sysops.aol.com> <00a801cd8e70$6d802b50$1502a8c0@Clemens04> <00ACB430BA5C4DE0B2A2E99876E61D81@AGB> <003101cd8e7f$35943ab0$0501a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> In-Reply-To: <003101cd8e7f$35943ab0$0501a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf> Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2012 12:55:55 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8117.416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8117.416 X-Spam-Score: 0.0 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. 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Content preview: I assume now after 40 years , the latter being 5 > 10KW , then the isolators must be starting to craze , the mast is a galvanised steel triangular mast with a 40 ft or more top spike , guide with steel + insulators wires , so the mast must now be starting to corrode as Wallasey is open the to the sea .... may be the bean counters for once , will serve a useful purpose , the site must consume round 10/ 20KW of power , 24/7 - 365 days a year , that must be a big cost overhead , coupled with a re-furb on the mast [...] Content analysis details: (0.0 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [80.12.242.29 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message X-Scan-Signature: 1893f81ea0981fc196bd59f24f25b599 Subject: Re: LF: DK0SWF antenna Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_005C_01CD8E8A.736B1100" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.7 required=5.0 tests=HTML_40_50, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE,MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d40d9504c840740a1 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ------=_NextPart_000_005C_01CD8E8A.736B1100 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable I assume now after 40 years , the latter being 5 > 10KW , then = the isolators must be starting to craze , the mast is a galvanised = steel triangular mast with a 40 ft or more top spike , guide with = steel + insulators wires , so the mast must now be starting to = corrode as Wallasey is open the to the sea .... may be the bean = counters for once , will serve a useful purpose , the site must = consume round 10/ 20KW of power , 24/7 - 365 days a year , that = must be a big cost overhead , coupled with a re-furb on the mast=20 You can see the houses just at the end of the guy-wires ........ = and all those bolted sections and junk to chatter =20 http://www.conceptnews.org/wallasey.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3DiL0Qt7IF8Q4 G :- )) From: mal hamilton=20 Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2012 12:35 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: DK0SWF antenna Graham When it is de- commissioned for the residents sake and the rest of us I = hope Radio Amateurs do not take it over and turn it into a QRM = generator !! mal/g3kev ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Graham=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2012 11:07 AM Subject: Re: LF: DK0SWF antenna Lets hope BBC Radio Merseyside follows the same way and ends = 40 years of misery for those living next door to the MW tx = 1485 , its playing a tape asking listeners to tune FM/DAB , it = now relays 2 or 3 feeds and produces a Christmas tree of IMP and = wideband noise , especially when the wx is damp or raining .=20 People worry about mobile phone masts and we had to jump through = loops over V/MTR for the 500 licence , this is at the end of a = residential street , with tails of talking toasters , zig-zag Tv = and music louder than the person calling on then phone=20 G..=20 From: Clemens Paul=20 Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2012 10:19 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: DK0SWF antenna Nicolas, >The end of SWF ? On MW:Yes,since 8.1.2012, see = http://www.swr.de/frequenzen/radio/mittelwelle/-/id=3D3646/1yw1vsg/index.= html (use google translator if necessary :-)) 73 Clemens DL4RAJ ----- Original Message -----=20 From: f4dtl@aol.com=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2012 11:44 PM Subject: Re : LF: DK0SWF antenna Very strong signal here, beautifull MF activation. Why do they use a broadcast antenna ? The end of SWF ? F4DTL Nicolas -----E-mail d'origine----- De : pa3abk A: blacksheep Envoy=C3=A9 le : Sa, 8 Sep 2012 21:46 Sujet : LF: DK0SWF antenna Scanning the CW band 472-7kHz a strong, I mean very strong signal was=20 heard from DK0SWF on 472,5. He was listening mostly on 80m. At 1930 he was QRT signing of after a short QSX 503. Didn't manage to work him :-( Checked internet and his location was here :=20 http://no.nonsense.ee/qthmap/?qth=3DJN49AV60ER Looking to the sat picture a "large" antenna was showed, which explained = the strong sigs. If you are reading this reflector, do you really use this array? Jan/pa3abk --=20 pa3abk <-> dordrecht jo21it -------------------------------------------------------------------------= --- E-Mail ist virenfrei. Von AVG =C3=BCberpr=C3=BCft - www.avg.de Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virendatenbank: 2437/5257 - Ausgabedatum: = 08.09.2012=20 ------=_NextPart_000_005C_01CD8E8A.736B1100 Content-Type: text/html; charset="UTF-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
I assume now  after  40  years , the  = latter =20 being  5 > 10KW  , then  the  isolators must = be =20 starting to  craze , the  mast is a  galvanised = steel =20 triangular  mast  with a  40 ft or  more  = top =20 spike , guide with  steel + insulators  wires , so the =20 mast  must  now  be starting  to  corrode  = as  Wallasey is  open the  to the  sea ....  = may be=20 the  bean  counters  for  once  , will =20 serve  a  useful  purpose , the  site  = must =20 consume  round  10/ 20KW  of  power  , = 24/7 - 365=20 days  a  year  , that  must be a big  = cost =20 overhead , coupled with a  re-furb on the  mast
 
You can  see  the  houses  just  at = the  end=20 of the  guy-wires  ........ and  all  those =20 bolted  sections  and  junk  to  chatter  =
 
http://www.conceptnews.= org/wallasey.html
 
 
http://www.youtube.= com/watch?v=3DiL0Qt7IF8Q4
 
G    :- ))

From: mal hamilton
Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2012 12:35 PM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Subject: Re: LF: DK0SWF antenna

Graham
When it is de- commissioned for the residents=20 sake and the rest of us I hope Radio Amateurs do not take it=20 over  and turn it into a QRM generator !!
 
mal/g3kev
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Graham
Sent: Sunday, September 09, = 2012 11:07=20 AM
Subject: Re: LF: DK0SWF = antenna

Lets  hope   BBC Radio  Merseyside  = follows=20 the  same  way  and  ends  40  = years  of=20 misery for  those living   next  door  to = the =20 MW tx   1485  , its playing a  tape asking =20 listeners  to  tune   FM/DAB  , it now=20 relays   2 or 3  feeds and  produces a =20 Christmas  tree of IMP  and  wideband  noise ,=20 especially   when the wx  is  damp  or  = raining=20 .
 
People  worry about  mobile phone  masts  and = we had=20 to  jump  through  loops over  V/MTR  for = the =20 500 licence , this  is at the  end  of a  = residential=20 street  , with  tails  of  talking toasters  = ,=20 zig-zag Tv  and  music louder than the  person = calling  on=20 then phone
 
G..

Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2012 10:19 AM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Subject: Re: LF: DK0SWF antenna

Nicolas,
 
>The end of SWF ?
 
On MW:Yes,since 8.1.2012, see
http://www.swr.de/frequenzen/radio/mittelwelle/-/id=3D3646/= 1yw1vsg/index.html
 
(use google translator if necessary = :-))
 
 
73
Clemens
DL4RAJ
 
 
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 f4dtl@aol.com
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Sent: Saturday, September 08, = 2012=20 11:44 PM
Subject: Re : LF: DK0SWF = antenna

Very strong = signal here,=20 beautifull MF activation.
Why do=20 they use a broadcast antenna ? The=20 end of SWF ?
 
F4DTL=20 Nicolas

-----E-mail=20 d'origine-----
De : pa3abk <pa3abk@kpnmail.nl>
A: = blacksheep=20 <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= >
Envoy=C3=A9=20 le : Sa, 8 Sep 2012 21:46
Sujet : LF: DK0SWF antenna

Scanning the CW band 472-7kHz a strong,  I =
mean very strong signal was=20
heard from DK0SWF on 472,5.
He was listening mostly on 80m.
At 1930 he was QRT signing of after a short QSX 503.
Didn't manage to work him :-(

Checked internet and his location was here :=20
http://no.nonsense.ee/qthmap/?qth=3DJN49AV60ER
Looking to the sat picture a "large" antenna was showed, which explained =

the strong sigs.

If you are reading this reflector, do you really use this array?


Jan/pa3abk

--=20
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