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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi Stefan, sorry, only just started the RX before 7 UT. So here's your decode, delayed by 10 minutes... 2012-09-22 07:10 DK7FC 0.137429 +12 0 JN49ik 1 DF6NM/8 JN59nj 175 91 [...] Content analysis details: (-0.5 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [205.188.105.146 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (markusvester[at]aol.com) -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record -0.5 RP_MATCHES_RCVD Envelope sender domain matches handover relay domain 0.0 HTML_MESSAGE BODY: HTML included in message 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid X-Scan-Signature: 14522a7d8bfffcae5e92e35059f18ae1 Subject: Re: LF: Experimental software for WSPR-8 and -32 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_000B_01CD98A5.CB0E24E0" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40,HTML_MESSAGE, MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G X-AOL-SCOLL-AUTHENTICATION: mtain-mp01.r1000.mx.aol.com ; domain : mx.aol.com DKIM : pass x-aol-sid: 3039ac1dc145505d6ae2759f X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Dies ist eine mehrteilige Nachricht im MIME-Format. ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01CD98A5.CB0E24E0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Hi Stefan, sorry, only just started the RX before 7 UT. So here's your decode, = delayed by 10 minutes... 2012-09-22 07:10 DK7FC 0.137429 +12 0 JN49ik 1 DF6NM/8 = JN59nj 175 91 =20 The offset was shown as DT =3D -0.5 so timing is perfect. As you said, slow DX work should be split band. From here I would send = close to the Eu slot, for example in a 10 Hz subband from 136.155 to = 136.165 kHz. And perhaps 137.765 to 137.775 kHz for TA west-to-east, = which would be in a DCF39 gap. This setup would also allow to merge the = accelerated output with the "normal WSPR" band 137.4 to 137.6 kHz. Best 73 Markus, DF6NM From: Stefan Sch=E4fer=20 Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 3:00 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: Experimental software for WSPR-8 and -32 LF! I just prepared the new set of files and successfully transmitted the = normal WSPR-2. Got decodes from the active RX stations. So this is = working at least. Now i set up for WSPR-8 and will run a beacon in 50% TX mode on 137.43 = kHz. TX pwr is 6 dB lower as usual. Are there already some WSPR-8 reporters? Reports apprechiated. In recent tests using WSPR-8 i was transmitting on 136.172 kHz but this = covers to much BW there, about 1.5 Hz. For WSPR-32 tests we may discuss = for a suitable slot. The EU-60 QRSS slow should be clean from other = non-spectrogram-needing modes i find. However a few 10 or 20 Hz above = that slot would allow to run splitted spectrograms on the grabbers, = allowing to display the traces. Not sure who will at all send in = WSPR-32? Should we use the normal digimode slot or a TA<> EU splitted = slot? Ideas please. 73, Stefan/DK7FC PS: WSPR-32 is not possible so far for me because my watchdog circuit = interrupts transmissions longer than 10 minutes for savety reasons. For = DFCW this is no problem due to the gaps but WSPR is a continuous = transmission... Am 21.09.2012 23:53, schrieb Markus Vester:=20 For those interested, the slowWSPR utilities can be downloaded at http://df6nm.bplaced.net/wspr/slowWSPR.zip (97 kB) There is a readme file which will hopefully give you an idea of how to = proceed. But beware, this is all very improvised, please don't expect = plug and play... Best 73, Markus (DF6NM) From: Markus Vester=20 Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 2:07 AM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: WSPR-8 Test First decodes using 8-minute WSPR: 2012-09-21 00:00 DK7FC 0.137508 +7 0 JN49ik 1 DF6NM = JN59nj 175 91 =20 2012-09-20 23:52 DK7FC 0.137508 +3 0 JN49ik 1 DF6NM = JN59nj 175 91 =20 2012-09-20 23:44 DK7FC 0.137508 -4 0 JN49ik 1 DF6NM = JN59nj 175 91 =20 Between 23:36 and 23:43:20, Stefan was transmitting 8-times slow WSPR = with low power on 136172 Hz. This was recorded here to an IQ file using = SndInput from DL4YHF, and replayed 8x fast during the next 2-minute = slot, starting 23:44. In the process the audio was frequency shifted = from 670 to 2000 Hz, and added to the normal audio data for WSPR. Thus = with the 4x acceleration, Stefan's transmission appeared 8 instead of 2 = Hz above center. This is all still a bit improvised, but the concept seems to work. Best 73, Markus (DF6NM) ------=_NextPart_000_000B_01CD98A5.CB0E24E0 Content-Type: text/html; charset="iso-8859-1" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable
Hi = Stefan,
 
sorry, only just started the RX =  before 7 UT. So=20 here's your decode, delayed by 10 minutes...
 
2012-09-22 07:10   DK7FC  =20 0.137429   +12   0   JN49ik  =20 1   DF6NM/8   JN59nj   175   = 91 =20
The offset was shown as DT =3D -0.5 so = timing is=20 perfect.
 
As you said, slow DX work should be split = band. From=20 here I would send close to the Eu slot, for = example in a 10=20 Hz subband from 136.155 to 136.165 kHz. And perhaps 137.765 to = 137.775=20 kHz for TA west-to-east, which would be in a DCF39 gap. = This setup=20 would also allow to merge the accelerated output with the = "normal=20 WSPR" band 137.4 to 137.6 kHz.
 
Best 73
Markus, DF6NM
 
 
From: Stefan = Sch=E4fer
Sent: Saturday, September 22, 2012 3:00 AM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org= =20
Subject: Re: LF: Experimental software for WSPR-8 and=20 -32

LF!

I just prepared the new set of = files and=20 successfully transmitted the normal WSPR-2. Got decodes from the active = RX=20 stations. So this is working at least.

Now i set up for=20 WSPR-8 and will run a beacon in 50% TX mode on 137.43 kHz. = TX pwr=20 is 6 dB lower as usual.
Are there already some WSPR-8 reporters? = Reports=20 apprechiated.

In recent tests using WSPR-8 i was transmitting on = 136.172=20 kHz but this covers to much BW there, about 1.5 Hz. For WSPR-32 tests we = may=20 discuss for a suitable slot. The EU-60 QRSS slow should be clean from = other=20 non-spectrogram-needing modes i find. However a few 10 or 20 Hz above = that slot=20 would allow to run splitted spectrograms on the grabbers, allowing to = display=20 the traces. Not sure who will at all send in WSPR-32? Should we use the = normal=20 digimode slot or a TA<> EU splitted slot? Ideas please.

73, = Stefan/DK7FC

PS: WSPR-32 is not possible so far for me because my = watchdog circuit interrupts transmissions longer than 10 minutes for = savety=20 reasons. For DFCW this is no problem due to the gaps but WSPR is a = continuous=20 transmission...


Am 21.09.2012 23:53, schrieb Markus Vester:=20
For those interested, the = slowWSPR utilities=20 can be downloaded at
 
http://df6nm.bplaced.net/wspr/slowWSPR.zip&n= bsp;(97=20 kB)
 
There is a readme file which will = hopefully give=20 you an idea of how to proceed. But beware, this is all very = improvised, please=20 don't expect plug and play...
 
Best 73,
Markus (DF6NM)
 

From: Markus = Vester=20
Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 2:07 AM
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: WSPR-8 Test

First decodes using 8-minute=20 WSPR:
 
2012-09-21 00:00   = DK7FC  =20 0.137508   +7   0   JN49ik  =20 1   DF6NM   JN59nj   175   = 91 =20
2012-09-20 23:52   = DK7FC  =20 0.137508   +3   0   JN49ik  =20 1   DF6NM   JN59nj   175   = 91 =20
2012-09-20 23:44   DK7FC   = 0.137508  =20 -4   0   JN49ik   1  =20 DF6NM   JN59nj   175   91 =20
Between 23:36 and 23:43:20, Stefan = was=20 transmitting 8-times slow WSPR with low power on 136172 Hz. This = was=20 recorded here to an IQ file using SndInput from DL4YHF, and replayed = 8x=20 fast during the next 2-minute slot, starting 23:44. In the = process the=20 audio was frequency shifted from 670 to 2000 Hz, and added to the = normal=20 audio data for WSPR.  Thus with the 4x acceleration, = Stefan's=20 transmission appeared 8 instead of 2 Hz = above center.
 
This is all still a bit improvised, = but the=20 concept seems to work.
 
Best 73,
Markus (DF6NM)
 
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