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From: "Alan Melia" <alan.melia@btinternet.com>
To: <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
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Date: Fri, 28 Sep 2012 00:18:01 +0100
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Subject: LF: Re: 630m Band Plan
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Can you advise why you are seeking to impose a "plan" on the rest of the =
world when it patently is not required, nor is it desired by many. =
History suggests that flexibility is required, and the quantity of =
signals is unlikely to require strict planning. Can I remind you how a =
strict regulatory "plan" strangled German use of 136kHz originally, and =
probably drove many potential users away.

You are suggesting to me that this plan will be imposed........I am not =
impressed, particularly as many countries have not decided on their =
allocations. Please discuss use profiles for the band but not "plans".=20

Alan Melia G3NYK
  ----- Original Message -----=20
  From: KKorn42@aol.com=20
  To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  Sent: Thursday, September 27, 2012 11:18 PM
  Subject: LF: 630m Band Plan


  Dear All
  as a first proposal for discussion we present a "plan" that we coined =
the "B31 Band Plan for 630m". The name derives from the DOK to which all =
who shared ideas, belong.
  Just to state it once more: it is a first basis and proposal and those =
who have an interest in operation between 472kHz and 479kHz (up to now =
the slot allocated by the BuNetzA to German hams) are invited to agree, =
discuss or provide better ideas.
  Several hams already provided specific proposals which were =
incorporated.
  We deliberately did not detail too much, as we do not think, that all =
can be fixed prior to actual demand.

  Please see attached gif-file.

  1. A CW slot from 472kHz to 475kHz (=3D3kHz).
  2. Within that, a region for beacons (472,000kHz to 472,150kHz) =
followed by a region for Slow CW (472,150kHz to 472,300kHz).
  3. For TA-CW DX traffic or other long-haul DX, a calling frequency =
shall be established at 472,600kHz.
  4. For other CW traffic, another calling frequency (if the necessity =
exists) shall be established in the upper region of the CW allocation at =
474,750kHz (474,500 occupied by "SA").
  5. The frequency 472,500kHz will not be allocated for special use (at =
least for the time being), as a continuous carrier is audible 24/7 =
throughout DL.
  6. A slot for Digital Modes from 475,0kHz to 479,0 (=3D 4kHz).
  7. Today it is much too early to decide which digital modes will be =
used on 630m. We propose to leave this open for the future. WSPR =
(474,200kHz Dial USB), OPERA and ROS (477,000kHz DIAL USB) have =
established themselves on the shown frequencies. Some other modes that =
may be useful for MW but can not yet be used (e.g. JT65HF) because they =
allow no suitable frequency selection.
  8. Digital Modes should not overlap each other (minor relocations may =
be necessary).
  9. Whether or not the shown "protection zones" of e.g. +/- 50Hz around =
active NDB frequencies are necessary or not, ist still being discussed.
  10. No further stipulations will be given.

  Walter DJ2LF, Roland DL3NDR, Klaus DJ6LB

  NB (DJ6LB): Upon request I provide (via separate mail) a picture with =
better resolution .=20


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required, nor=20
is it desired by many. History suggests that flexibility is required, =
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a strict regulatory "plan" strangled German use of 136kHz originally, =
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probably drove many potential users away.</FONT></DIV>
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<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2 face=3DArial>You are suggesting to =
me that this=20
plan will be imposed........I am not impressed, particularly as many =
countries=20
have not decided on their allocations. Please discuss use profiles for =
the band=20
but not "plans". </FONT></DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2 face=3DArial></FONT>&nbsp;</DIV>
<DIV><FONT color=3D#000000 size=3D2 face=3DArial>Alan Melia =
G3NYK</FONT></DIV>
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  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial">----- Original Message ----- </DIV>
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black"><B>From:</B>=20
  <A title=3DKKorn42@aol.com =
href=3D"mailto:KKorn42@aol.com">KKorn42@aol.com</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>To:</B> <A =
title=3Drsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20
  =
href=3D"mailto:rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org">rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=
</A>=20
  </DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Sent:</B> Thursday, September 27, =
2012 11:18=20
  PM</DIV>
  <DIV style=3D"FONT: 10pt arial"><B>Subject:</B> LF: 630m Band =
Plan</DIV>
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  <DIV>
  <DIV>Dear All<BR>as a first proposal for discussion we present a =
"plan" that=20
  we coined the "B31 Band Plan for 630m". The name derives from the DOK =
to which=20
  all who shared ideas, belong.<BR>Just to state it once more: it is a =
first=20
  basis and proposal and those who have an interest in operation between =
472kHz=20
  and 479kHz (up to now the slot allocated by the BuNetzA to German =
hams) are=20
  invited to agree, discuss or provide better ideas.<BR>Several hams =
already=20
  provided specific proposals which were incorporated.<BR>We =
deliberately did=20
  not detail too much, as we do not think, that all can be fixed prior =
to actual=20
  demand.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Please see attached gif-file.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>1. A CW slot from 472kHz to 475kHz (=3D3kHz).<BR>2. Within that, =
a region=20
  for beacons (472,000kHz to 472,150kHz) followed by a region for Slow =
CW=20
  (472,150kHz to 472,300kHz).<BR>3. For TA-CW DX traffic or other =
long-haul DX,=20
  a calling frequency shall be established at 472,600kHz.<BR>4. For =
other CW=20
  traffic, another calling frequency (if the necessity exists) shall be=20
  established in the upper region of the CW allocation at 474,750kHz =
(474,500=20
  occupied by "SA").<BR>5. The frequency 472,500kHz will not be =
allocated for=20
  special use (at least for the time being), as a continuous carrier is =
audible=20
  24/7 throughout DL.<BR>6. A slot for Digital Modes from 475,0kHz to =
479,0 (=3D=20
  4kHz).<BR>7. Today it is much too early to decide which digital modes =
will be=20
  used on 630m. We propose to leave this open for the future. WSPR =
(474,200kHz=20
  Dial USB), OPERA and ROS (477,000kHz DIAL USB) have established =
themselves on=20
  the shown frequencies. Some other modes that may be useful for MW but =
can not=20
  yet be used (e.g. JT65HF) because they allow no suitable frequency=20
  selection.<BR>8. Digital Modes should not overlap each other (minor=20
  relocations may be necessary).<BR>9. Whether or not the shown =
"protection=20
  zones" of e.g. +/- 50Hz around active NDB frequencies are necessary or =
not,=20
  ist still being discussed.<BR>10. No further stipulations will be =
given.</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>Walter DJ2LF, Roland DL3NDR, Klaus DJ6LB</DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
  <DIV>NB (DJ6LB): Upon request I provide (via separate mail) a picture =
with=20
  better resolution . </DIV>
  <DIV>&nbsp;</DIV>
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