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From: "Ken" <ken.h.wright@btinternet.com>
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Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2012 21:07:12 +0100
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Hi Stefan.
Thank you for all the filter info, definitely interested in them, at =
present
for 500kHz I have a homebrew filter using two Toko transformers in =
between
the antenna socket and two stage rx pre-amp. There are GE protection =
diodes
across the input, the pre-amp gain is 0 - 18dB with a variable capacitor =
to
peak at the operating frequency. I was thinking of replacing the 500kHz
filter with this mechanical one, it would save work, just need an input
matching Xformer and change the gate resistor on the input FET.
Your thoughts please Stefan.

73.

Ken

M0KHW =20

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
[mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Stefan =
Sch=E4fer
Sent: 15 September 2012 01:07
To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
Subject: Re: LF: Re: RE: MF tonite

Hi Ken,

I just tried to use the 500 Ohm input and the 18k Ohm output. It works=20
UFB but then i got worried about destroying the filter due to the=20
up-transformation on the input (the max. input voltage is 2 V rms). Thus =

i decided to rebuilt the circuit as it has been before and will=20
eventually use an uptransformer behind the filter. But probably this is=20
not necessary because the MF noisef floor is still 20 dB above my=20
RX+soundcard noise floor...

After readjusting the C, now the passband ripple is < 0.5 dB.

This is the schematic:=20
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/19882028/MF/MF%20Filter%20schematic.png
(You know, someone has done it all before and it is nothing new ;-) ).

Will you order and use some of them?

73, Stefan/DK7FC

Am 13.09.2012 21:47, schrieb Ken:
> Hi Stefan.
> Fully understand.
>
> 73.
> Ken.
> M0KHW
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Stefan =
Sch=E4fer
> Sent: 13 September 2012 20:03
> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
> Subject: Re: LF: Re: RE: MF tonite
>
> Hi Ken,
>
> OK but later. I want to try some modifications, i.e. using the 500 Ohm
> input and the 18 kOhm output, to have some gain. If this does not =
affect
> the matching, i would prefer that...
>
> 73, Stefan
> Am 13.09.2012 20:43, schrieb Ken:
>   =20
>> Stefan.
>> Thank you for the info, maybe sometime you will be able to post the
>>     =20
> circuit?
>   =20
>> 73.
>>
>> Ken
>>
>> M0KHW
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Stefan =
Sch=E4fer
>> Sent: 13 September 2012 12:26
>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>> Subject: Re: LF: Re: RE: MF tonite
>>
>> Ah yes, Thomas was faster, damn ;-)
>>
>> Another image from the experimental setup, using source followers
>>
>>     =20
>
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/19882028/MF/Mechanical_filter_with_source-follow=
ers
>   =20
>> .JPG
>> The results have been very good last night!
>>
>> 73, Stefan/DK7FC
>>
>>
>> Am 13.09.2012 13:12, schrieb Thomas Rosenkranz:
>>
>>     =20
>>> Hy Ken,
>>>
>>> the name of the mechanical filter is FZ02
>>> http://www.oppermann-electronic.de/html/hf-spezialbauteile.html
>>>
>>> http://dm4tr.bplaced.net/index.php?section=3DReceiver
>>>
>>> 73
>>> Thomas DM4TR
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: =
"Ken"<ken.h.wright@btinternet.com>
>>> To:<rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
>>> Sent: Thursday, September 13, 2012 10:28 AM
>>> Subject: LF: RE: MF tonite
>>>
>>>
>>> Hi Stefan.
>>> What mechanical filter are you using?.
>>> 73.
>>> Ken
>>> M0KHW
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>>> [mailto:owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org] On Behalf Of Stefan =
Sch=E4fer
>>> Sent: 12 September 2012 21:02
>>> To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org
>>> Subject: LF: MF tonite
>>>
>>> Christian,
>>>
>>> Are you QRV tonite? I would like to see or better hear the =
difference of
>>> my RX performance when using my band filter i was testing in the
>>> afternoon.
>>>
>>> It is the mechanical filter which uses source followers at the input =
and
>>> output, to provide a constant accurate impedance matching to keep =
the
>>> passband ripple as low as possible. The afternoons tests have been =
very
>>> promising, see https://dl.dropbox.com/u/19882028/MF/MF%20Filter.png
>>> This is the frequency response:
>>>
>>>       =20
> =
https://dl.dropbox.com/u/19882028/MF/473%20kHz%20ZF%20Filter%2040%20dB.pn=
g
>   =20
>>>
>>>       =20
>>
>>     =20
>>> There should be a much better image rejection now and so maybe a few
>>> more dB SNR... Unfortunately the filter does not cover the 502 kHz
>>> region. But this problem will be gone in some months...
>>>
>>> Will be on 472.5 kHz soon.
>>>
>>> 73, Stefan/DK7FC
>>>       =20
>>     =20
>
>   =20