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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Alan You are not getting all the mail if that is the case. You have missed all the redicule and arguments by some about trying to close it down this past several months. It suits me and others at the present time, this is where all the real information is exchanging hands about LF es MF A class C amplifier is very efficient nearly as good as the class D or E but the AB linear variety needed for some so called very modern data modes is very inefficient, 40 % if you are lucky g3kev [...] Content analysis details: (4.4 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [62.24.128.237 listed in list.dnswl.org] -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 4.4 AXB_XMAILER_MIMEOLE_OL_024C2 AXB_XMAILER_MIMEOLE_OL_024C2 X-Scan-Signature: 7c995d39cde70605aa76dd18810a4256 Subject: Re: LF: test Content-Type: text/plain; charset="ISO-8859-15" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.2 required=5.0 tests=NO_EXPERIENCE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1db407506864dc7abe X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Alan You are not getting all the mail if that is the case. You have missed all the redicule and arguments by some about trying to close it down this past several months. It suits me and others at the present time, this is where all the real information is exchanging hands about LF es MF A class C amplifier is very efficient nearly as good as the class D or E but the AB linear variety needed for some so called very modern data modes is very inefficient, 40 % if you are lucky g3kev ----- Original Message ----- From: "Alan Melia" To: Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 3:04 PM Subject: Re: LF: test > Hi Mal I dont see anyone ridiculing this reflector....it has been a vital > resource for years. Some wanted more facilities, and we can't, it seems, > provide the same service these days here. If it dies there may be no-one to > press the red button :-)) It would seem to be losing mail, or it has > perhaps generated a blacklisting on some routes/nodes because messages dont > always seem to get through to non-UK users. We do not have control of the > hardware, it is not run on RSGB servers. It's a bit like the old marine > Class C valve rigs......they still work but are not as efficient as modern > kit. :-)) > > Those of us interested in following activity for propagation information > still need to receive both, and of course reply on the "senders channel" > :-)) > > Alan > G3NYK > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "mal hamilton" > To: > Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 3:41 PM > Subject: Re: LF: test > > > > Alan > > That is a valid suggestion. The thing that puzzles me is some of those > > that > > redicule BS frequently are still reading and posting to the BS REFLECTOR. > > It seems that all the hot stuff ie technical discussions about rigs and > > antennas and topics like DX propagation and arrangements for skeds happen > > on > > BS. > > I am in direct contact with some DX stations about engaging in CW/QRSS > > QSO'S > > both simplex and xband for those that cannot TX on LF/MF > > When propagation permits I shall fire up like I did years ago in a > > calculated manner and not Beacon wildly hoping for a chance strike. > > I have worked many JA stations over the years on 160 metres and some of > > these stations would like to work two way with EU on 500 Khz and they > > would > > reply on the lower end of the 160 metre band CW. A couple of VK top band > > CW > > dxers have expressed a similar interest. > > I did hear a VK6 top band dxer on 24 Mhz this morning on CW > > > > > > de G3KEV > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Alan Melia" > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 1:41 PM > > Subject: Re: LF: test > > > > > >> Hi Jay the problem being we dont have ready access to Blacksheep. I > > suggest > >> no-one cross posts messages they do not originate. This is the only > >> polite > >> way. > >> > >> I thought there was a mirror/archive of Blacksheep messages in the > >> US....I > >> remember seeing one about 10 years ago....but cant find it now so it must > >> have died. It is easy enough to set up a Yahoo private group and have all > >> the facilities that seem to be required....continuing with this Group in > > the > >> present conditions is just a hassle. I would have thought an "open" group > >> would be a better way to encourage new LF stations. A poster can delete > >> their own messages if they dont want them to persist. You can pull up all > >> you posts and delete in one go. They may be cached for a while but will > > soon > >> "decay". You cannot "hide" an email address easily, though you may be > >> able > >> to use an anonymous site. I have no experience of that. > >> > >> Alan G3NYK > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: > >> To: > >> Sent: Sunday, September 30, 2012 3:24 AM > >> Subject: Re: LF: test > >> > >> > >> > Alan > >> > > >> > Another possible solution ... > >> > > >> > Everyone on this list could indicate their preference ... 1) okay to > >> > cross-post without permission, 2) okay to cross-post with permission or > > 3) > >> > cross-posts never allowed. It would seem that this could be done with a > >> > 'gentleman's agreement'. If not, anyone that cross-posts against the > >> > desires of the originator will be subject to removal from this list. > >> > > >> > Jay W1VD WD2XNS WE2XGR/2 > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > ----- Original Message ----- > >> > From: "Alan Melia" > >> > To: > >> > Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 7:45 PM > >> > Subject: Re: LF: test > >> > > >> > > >> >> You can actually set up a private group on Yahoo where members only > >> >> see > >> >> the messages. I use these for a number of different committee. There > >> >> is > >> >> no access to messages outside the group members, and messages are not > >> >> open to google style searches.In fact no one else knows the group > > exists! > >> >> > >> >> Alan > >> >> G3NYK > >> >> > >> >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> >> From: "Stefan Schäfer" > >> >> To: > >> >> Sent: Saturday, September 29, 2012 11:56 PM > >> >> Subject: Re: LF: test > >> >> > >> >> > >> >>> ...i am extremely irritated to see my emails and even my email adress > > in > >> >>> this reflector beeing permanently forwarded to the web, i.e. certain > >> >>> public groups. Thus i consider to reduce my activity here and > >> >>> communicate with the few really active people directly, at least for > >> >>> some time. > >> >>> > >> >>> Stefan/DK7FC > >> >>> > >> >>> > >> >>> Am 29.09.2012 21:34, schrieb wolf_dl4yhf: > >> >>>> .. suspiciously quiet here on the reflector, especially for a > >> >>>> weekend > >> >>>> .. > >> >>> > >> >> > >> >> > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > > > > > >