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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Yes eventually you all did engage in a QSO that is true, with DK1KQ continually calling CQ BEACON MODE and DJ8WX unable to copy DF0WD because of the 599 QRM so he said. By the time your qso party had finished I had already gone and you had a poor signal compared to the others. Good suggestion about the lower 2 Khz as a playground and keep the rest of the spectrum for First class experienced Operators My RX condx are excellent and I know exactly what is going on. I thought maybe you would all have liked a report from outside Germany to see how your signals were propagating and compare each others signals but obviously not. G3KEV [...] Content analysis details: (4.6 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [62.24.128.241 listed in list.dnswl.org] 1.5 FSL_XM_419 Old OE version in X-Mailer only seen in 419 spam -0.0 SPF_PASS SPF: sender matches SPF record 1.3 FSL_UA FSL_UA 1.8 AXB_XMAILER_MIMEOLE_OL_024C2 AXB_XMAILER_MIMEOLE_OL_024C2 X-Scan-Signature: 17343f7e400f1005b5081acbd4115359 Subject: Re: LF: Fw: 472.5 CHAOS AGAIN Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d61855055fae46377 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Yes eventually you all did engage in a QSO that is true, with DK1KQ continually calling CQ BEACON MODE and DJ8WX unable to copy DF0WD because of the 599 QRM so he said. By the time your qso party had finished I had already gone and you had a poor signal compared to the others. Good suggestion about the lower 2 Khz as a playground and keep the rest of the spectrum for First class experienced Operators My RX condx are excellent and I know exactly what is going on. I thought maybe you would all have liked a report from outside Germany to see how your signals were propagating and compare each others signals but obviously not. G3KEV ----- Original Message ----- From: "Holger 'Geri', DK8KW - DI2BO - W1KW" To: Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 3:41 PM Subject: Re: LF: Fw: 472.5 CHAOS AGAIN > Well, Mal, obviously your own receiving conditions weren't that good, > otherwise you would have heard that almost all of the stations you mentioned > were in a QSO together: DF0WD, DJ8WX, DF5QG and, signing off very soon, > myself. The only station not involved in that activity/rag chewing regular > CW qso party today was the beacon station from Cuxhaven, which was not at > all audible here. > > After I signed off I listened a while on 502 kHz with my second RX but was > unable to hear you so I decided to qrt for a while. > > Perhaps we should come up with a band plan where we declare the lowe 2 kHz > as a playgound for the German chaos operators and the remainder of the band > is reserved for the fine first class operators from other places. PSE HW, > OM? > > 73 > > Geri, DK8KW . > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "mal hamilton" > To: > Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 5:07 PM > Subject: Re: LF: Fw: 472.5 CHAOS AGAIN > > > >I was able to hear you all but did not get the chance to work because no > >one > > was QSX 502 also everyone was working on the same frequency instead of > > moving a few Khz up from one another. In other words you were all on top > > of > > each other and I do not understand why when the band is 7 Khz wide with > > plenty of room !!!! > > You all missed the chance to get a report during daytime from G3KEV > > I hope operating procedures improve from January when all Countries will > > be > > using 472 - 479 and Receive antennas improve so that you can all hear each > > other and avoid QRM > > de mal/g3kev > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "C. Groeger" > > To: > > Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 2:30 PM > > Subject: Re: LF: Fw: 472.5 CHAOS AGAIN > > > > > >> Mal, did u hear me in qso wid Wolf and Uwe? > >> 73, df5qg > >> > >> Christian Groeger > >> > >> mal hamilton schrieb: > >> > >> > > >> >----- Original Message ----- > >> >From: mal hamilton > >> >To: rsgb > >> >Sent: Sunday, September 16, 2012 1:06 PM > >> >Subject: 472.5 CHAOS AGAIN > >> > > >> > > >> >4 stations active on 472.5 DF0WD, DK1KQ, DJ8WX, DK8KW > >> >all being swamped by DK1KQ on frequency on BEACON QSL VIA INTERNET ETC > >> >No one listening on 502 for others. > >> >Same CHAOS as a few days ago!!!!!!!!!! > >> >g3kev > >> > > >> > > > > > >