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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi Stefan, it's quite incredible but if you have look on the spotdatabase you wil see my uploaded report: at 21.46 UTC you are -3dB on your QRG (137449) and decoded with -28dB on a (HUM carrier) on 137550! 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Marco, IK1HSS ----- Original Message -----=20 From: Stefan Sch=C3=A4fer=20 To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Sent: Tuesday, September 18, 2012 9:34 PM Subject: Re: LF: WSPR tests by DK7FC Hi Roger, LF, All my PCs are running a time server program. But the tool that = generates the WSPR tones here is not affected by the time. I must use = the WSPR program to generate WSPR-2 to correct the time difference = permanently (in addition with the time server program). However it is just a pretest for the slower WSPR. Markus is already = ready to go. Tomorrow we will try WSPR-8 and WSPR-32. Maybe someone of the TA stations wants to participate in the test, = generating an audio file that will be played at 4x and 16x speed? John = or Jay? 73, Stefan/DK7FC Am 18.09.2012 23:17, schrieb Roger Lapthorn:=20 Stefan, Maybe worth using a package like Atomic to ensure your PC time is in = sync with time servers? I set mine to sync every few minutes so time is = spot on for WSPR.=20 73s Roger G3XBM -- Via my 2.4GHz transceiver -- On 18 Sep 2012, at 22:04, Stefan = Sch=C3=A4fer wrote: Hi Klaus, and Marco/IK1HSS, Thanks for the feedback and reports. It looks like timing is = critical here. I don't know why the time delay is changing. Maybe it has = to do with the separate tool to generate WSPR-2 which has a fixed time = interval between the sequences. The PC i'm using is quite old maybe = there are small time delays that are accumulating... First results are looking fine though. For later regulat = transmissions i shall use the program, unless it is possible to generate = a 12450 Hz TX tone. For the RX, it is not possible to set the audio BFO = tone to 12500 Hz :-( Don't know why it seems to be such a problem to add = that possibility. SpecLab and VAC has to do the rest of the work. OK, = maybe i would need SpecLab anyway, to realise the 2.5 kHz SSB filter... As long as some reports are coming in, the time delay cannot be to = high. However i think the displayed SNR suffers from this delay.=20 73, Stefan/DK7FC Am 18.09.2012 22:31, schrieb KKorn42@aol.com:=20 Stefan you are getting better 1946 -4 -1.8 0.137450 0 DK7FC JN49 30 1956 -4 -1.8 0.137450 0 DK7FC JN49 30 2006 -5 -1.1 0.137450 0 DK7FC JN49 30 2016 -3 -0.5 0.137450 0 DK7FC JN49 30 Monitored with indoor loop. Pse disregard the Frequ in last mail, didn't bother to switch as = I am not uploading. Hope that solves you decode problem? 73 de=20 Klaus DJ6LB ------=_NextPart_000_0070_01CD95E8.52828850 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable =EF=BB=BF
Hi Stefan,
 
it's quite incredible but if you have = look on the=20 spotdatabase you wil see my uploaded report: at 21.46 UTC you are -3dB = on your=20 QRG (137449) and decoded with -28dB on a (HUM carrier) on = 137550!
 
Marco, IK1HSS
----- Original Message -----
From:=20 Stefan = Sch=C3=A4fer
Sent: Tuesday, September 18, = 2012 9:34=20 PM
Subject: Re: LF: WSPR tests by=20 DK7FC

Hi Roger, LF,

All my PCs are running a time = server=20 program. But the tool that generates the WSPR tones here is not = affected by=20 the time. I must use the WSPR program to generate WSPR-2 to correct = the time=20 difference permanently (in addition with the time server = program).
However=20 it is just a pretest for the slower WSPR. Markus is already ready to = go.=20 Tomorrow we will try WSPR-8 and WSPR-32.

Maybe someone of the = TA=20 stations wants to participate in the test, generating an audio file = that will=20 be played at 4x and 16x speed?  John or Jay?

73,=20 Stefan/DK7FC

Am 18.09.2012 23:17, schrieb Roger Lapthorn:=20
Stefan,

Maybe worth using a package like Atomic to ensure your PC time = is in=20 sync with time servers? I set mine to sync every few minutes so time = is spot=20 on for WSPR. 

73s
Roger G3XBM

-- Via my 2.4GHz transceiver --

On 18 Sep 2012, at 22:04, Stefan Sch=C3=A4fer<Stefan.Schaefer@iup.uni-heidelberg.de>=20 wrote:

Hi Klaus, and Marco/IK1HSS,

Thanks for the feedback = and=20 reports. It looks like timing is critical here. I don't know why = the time=20 delay is changing. Maybe it has to do with the separate tool to = generate=20 WSPR-2 which has a fixed time interval between the sequences. The = PC i'm=20 using is quite old maybe there are small time delays that are=20 accumulating...

First results are looking fine though. For = later=20 regulat transmissions i shall use the program, unless it is = possible to=20 generate a 12450 Hz TX tone. For the RX, it is not possible to set = the=20 audio BFO tone to 12500 Hz :-( Don't know why it seems to be such = a=20 problem to add that possibility. SpecLab and VAC has to do the = rest of the=20 work. OK, maybe i would need SpecLab anyway, to realise the 2.5 = kHz SSB=20 filter...

As long as some reports are coming in, the time = delay=20 cannot be to high. However i think the displayed SNR suffers from = this=20 delay.

73, Stefan/DK7FC




Am 18.09.2012 = 22:31,=20 schrieb KKorn42@aol.com:=20
Stefan
you are getting better
1946  -4 -1.8   0.137450  0 DK7FC = JN49=20 30
1956  -4 -1.8   0.137450  0 DK7FC JN49 = 30
2006  -5 -1.1   0.137450  0 DK7FC JN49 = 30
2016  -3 -0.5   0.137450  0 DK7FC JN49 = 30
 
Monitored with indoor loop.
 
Pse=20 disregard the Frequ in last mail, didn't bother to switch as I = am not=20 uploading.
Hope that solves you decode = problem?
73
de
Klaus
DJ6LB
 
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