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(VPS 120808-1, 08/08/2012), Outbound message X-Antivirus-Status: Clean X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi Demitris, I am not sure of the types codes but I used 1000v or greater rating, the problem often is that the caps are not rated for high pulse currents. The best kind of caps that are used are rated for pulse operation in switch-mode power supply. Normal caps will not take the current pulses.....the individual plates get disconnected from the lead wires. One of the caps I used has come to hand its a RIFA PHE428 rated 2000v. I used this on 36v Class E running about 300W. I believe WIMA make similar caps but I am not sure of their type numbers. [...] Content analysis details: (0.2 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [77.238.189.61 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.2 STOX_REPLY_TYPE STOX_REPLY_TYPE 0.0 T_DKIM_INVALID DKIM-Signature header exists but is not valid 0.0 UNPARSEABLE_RELAY Informational: message has unparseable relay lines X-Scan-Signature: e6de17d69e46ff4ea8db042ef2cd7e46 Subject: LF: Re: Caps for Class-E amp Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: * X-Spam-Status: No, hits=1.6 required=5.0 tests=FORGED_MUA_OUTLOOK autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1da6055022edcf32f8 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Hi Demitris, I am not sure of the types codes but I used 1000v or greater rating, the problem often is that the caps are not rated for high pulse currents. The best kind of caps that are used are rated for pulse operation in switch-mode power supply. Normal caps will not take the current pulses.....the individual plates get disconnected from the lead wires. One of the caps I used has come to hand its a RIFA PHE428 rated 2000v. I used this on 36v Class E running about 300W. I believe WIMA make similar caps but I am not sure of their type numbers. Alan G3NYK ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dimitrios Tsifakis" To: Sent: Wednesday, August 08, 2012 11:03 PM Subject: LF: Caps for Class-E amp > Hello LF group, > > I am building a 200 W Class-E transmitter for LF but keep killing the > capacitors in the output circuit (both C1 and C2 according to the > schematic in Sokal's QST article). I have used a mixture WIMA > polypropylene MKP10, MKP4 and FKP1 caps and I haven't damaged any FKP > ones so far. Should I not bother with MKP and use only FKP caps or is > there any other type of capacitor what will do the job? I need a > couple of hundred of nanofarads. The voltage rating of the caps I > destroyed was 400 VDC or 250 VAC. I can see that these caps have a > decreasing AC rating as the frequency goes up, but that's what I had > in the junk box at the time... > > The mode of failure of these MKP10 0.1 400 VDC caps is interesting > too, they seem to go down in capacitance as the damage progresses. > > Any advice is appreciated. > > 73, Dimitris VK1SV/SV1DET >