Return-Path: Received: from post.thorcom.com (post.thorcom.com [195.171.43.25]) by mtain-mb04.r1000.mx.aol.com (Internet Inbound) with ESMTP id 3268A3800009A; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 14:12:46 -0400 (EDT) Received: from majordom by post.thorcom.com with local (Exim 4.14) id 1T63mv-0000oU-I1 for rs_out_1@blacksheep.org; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 19:11:49 +0100 Received: from [195.171.43.32] (helo=relay1.thorcom.net) by post.thorcom.com with esmtp (Exim 4.14) id 1T63mv-0000oL-21 for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 19:11:49 +0100 Received: from smtpout2.wanadoo.co.uk ([80.12.242.42] helo=smtpout.wanadoo.co.uk) by relay1.thorcom.net with esmtp (Exim 4.77) (envelope-from ) id 1T63mt-0003EW-Cu for rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 19:11:47 +0100 Received: from AGB ([2.26.47.12]) by mwinf5d29 with ME id ruBm1j00Y0FmMWi03uBmuA; Mon, 27 Aug 2012 20:11:46 +0200 Message-ID: From: "Graham" To: References: <06DDBDA2FE814440A956B5C33365FB75@AGB>, <003501cd8452$4ce82780$0501a8c0@xphd97xgq27nyf>, <37060B46D79F4AC69EEDBDA79B6B00CC@AGB> <503B869B.13523.54A81E@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> In-Reply-To: <503B869B.13523.54A81E@mike.dennison.ntlworld.com> Date: Mon, 27 Aug 2012 19:11:46 +0100 MIME-Version: 1.0 X-Priority: 3 X-MSMail-Priority: Normal Importance: Normal X-Mailer: Microsoft Windows Live Mail 14.0.8117.416 X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V14.0.8117.416 X-Spam-Score: 0.2 (/) X-Spam-Report: Spam detection software, running on the system "relay1.thorcom.net", has identified this incoming email as possible spam. The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Yes only go's to show , One Guy's ''Pixel'' is another's ''Nibble'' - have to keep in mid, Op is a one-pass data mode , the decode over heads are significant compared to 'carrier detection' - [...] Content analysis details: (0.2 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- -0.0 RCVD_IN_DNSWL_NONE RBL: Sender listed at http://www.dnswl.org/, no trust [80.12.242.42 listed in list.dnswl.org] 0.2 STOX_REPLY_TYPE STOX_REPLY_TYPE X-Scan-Signature: 6ffbd2c9950b634d6cc91f9565b01a8b Subject: Re: LF: Re: OP missed decodes Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.1 required=5.0 tests=MISSING_OUTLOOK_NAME autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d6018503bb89e6743 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Yes only go's to show , One Guy's ''Pixel'' is another's ''Nibble'' - have to keep in mid, Op is a one-pass data mode , the decode over heads are significant compared to 'carrier detection' - But as Stefan has commented , the number of stations active on 136 tx/rx is definitely on the increase, where as the PSK map used to show the odd red spot , now its quite packed ! G :) -------------------------------------------------- From: "Mike Dennison" Sent: Monday, August 27, 2012 2:39 PM To: Subject: Re: LF: Re: OP missed decodes > On 27 Aug 2012 at 14:08, Graham wrote: > >> Interesting , is Op visible at -40 dB ? , > > Oh yes! I have done some tests with TF3HZ's grabber and I can see my > Op32 on a QRSS screen when he was decoding at very low levels. > However, there is not much in it and Opera is very impressive in > resolving weak signals. > > For beacon and propagation tests Opera reports are so much more > convenient than taking snapshots of images of a QRSS grabber screen. > For a QSO, QRSS/DFCW may well be more useful, but the path conditions > can be more easily determined using Opera. It is "horses for > courses". > > Mike, G3XDV > ========== >