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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi Graham,  oops, I'm sorry I wasn't aware that the verb "honk" is also used as described as "Sense 4" on http://www.audioenglish.net/dictionary/honk.htm  Though I do not share the belief that Opera mode is the latest and greatest achievement in weak signal technology, I certainly did not intend to insult it, or anyone working with it. 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Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="--------MB_8CF48250C787940_6FC_1E6AAB_Webmail-d117.sysops.aol.com" X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.9 required=5.0 tests=HTML_30_40, HTML_FONTCOLOR_UNKNOWN,HTML_MESSAGE autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d4057502a335023e5 X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none This is a multi-part message in MIME format. ----------MB_8CF48250C787940_6FC_1E6AAB_Webmail-d117.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hi Graham, =C2=A0 oops, I'm sorry I=C2=A0wasn't aware=C2=A0that the verb "honk"=C2=A0is also = used=C2=A0as described=C2=A0as "Sense 4"=C2=A0on http://www.audioenglish.net/dictionary/honk.htm =C2=A0 Though I do not share the belief that Opera mode is=C2=A0the latest and gre= atest achievement in weak signal technology, I certainly did not intend to = insult it, or anyone working with it. Best 73, Markus (DF6NM) -----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----=20 Von: Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk> An: rsgb_lf_group <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org> Verschickt: Di, 14 Aug 2012 12:01 am Betreff: Re: LF: What is that effect? As its=C2=A0 a=C2=A0 'Opera'=C2=A0=C2=A0 signal=C2=A0 could be=C2=A0 a litt= le=C2=A0 'VIBRATO' adding=C2=A0 artistic=C2=A0 effect =C2=A0? =C2=A0 Though,=C2=A0=C2=A0 'HONK Mode'=C2=A0=C2=A0 could=C2=A0 be=C2=A0 misinterpr= eted=C2=A0 ...............=20 =C2=A0 G :0) From: Markus Vester=20 Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 11:15 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: Re: LF: What is that effect? Stefan =C2=A0 which effect do you mean? =C2=A0 - the undecipherable garbage in Morse code? Must be toot-toot mode *) =C2=A0 - the gap in the middle, between "ts" and "nr"? Must have been a temporary = outage on the transmit side, or a SpecLab timewarp at G4WGT. =C2=A0 - The weak +- 10 Hz sidelines at the beginning?=C2=A0Probably a spurious mo= dulation=C2=A0from the transmitter or power supply, or perhaps an artifact = the receiver AGC, acting on a pair of local signals outside the spectrogram= range. Or a Perseid meteor trail, moving at 20 km/s (no, not really). =C2=A0 Best 73, Markus (DF6NM) =C2=A0 *) Here in DL (and probably elsewhere), there=C2=A0is a=C2=A0wedding rite= =C2=A0that the newly=C2=A0married couple is=C2=A0driving from church in a f= lower decorated car, followed=C2=A0by their friends and relatives in a conv= oy of cars. They follow a white chalk line painted on the street **),=C2=A0= and usually keep honking their horns in an erratic manner.=C2=A0Listening t= o one or several instantaneous Opera signals never fails to remind me of th= at sound - so I privately dubbed it "honk mode". =C2=A0 **) Rumour has it that this white line is primarily meant to guide the coup= le in safe distance around the houses of their former lovers. =C2=A0 =C2=A0 From: Stefan Sch=C3=A4fer=20 Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 4:33 PM To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org=20 Subject: LF: What is that effect? LF, Just seen this on the G4WGT garbber, see attachment. Where does this=20 frequency spreading effect come from? Experts: go! 73, Stefan ----------MB_8CF48250C787940_6FC_1E6AAB_Webmail-d117.sysops.aol.com Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8"
Hi Graham,
 
oops, I'm sorry = I wasn't aware that the verb "honk" is also used as des= cribed as "Sense 4" on
 
Though I do not share the belief that Opera mode is the latest an= d greatest achievement in weak signal technology, I certainly did not inten= d to insult it, or anyone working with it.
Best 73,
Markus (DF6NM)

-----Urspr=C3=BCngliche Mitteilung-----
Von: Graham <g8fzk@g8fzk.fsnet.co.uk>
An: rsgb_lf_group <rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org>
Verschickt: Di, 14 Aug 2012 12:01 am
Betreff: Re: LF: What is that effect?

As its  a  'Opera'   signal  could be  a= little  'VIBRATO' adding  artistic  effect  ?
 
Though,   'HONK Mode'   could  be  misin= terpreted  ...............
 
G :0)
Sent: Sunday, August 12, 2012 11:15 PM
Subject: Re: LF: What is that effect?

Stefan
 
which effect do you mean?
 
- the undecipherable garbage in Morse code= ? Must be toot-toot mode *)
 
- the gap in the middle, between "ts" and = "nr"? Must have been a temporary outage on the transmit side, or a SpecLab = timewarp at G4WGT.
 
- The weak +- 10 Hz sidelines at the begin= ning? Probably a spurious modulation from the transmitter or powe= r supply, or perhaps an artifact the receiver AGC, acting on a pair of loca= l signals outside the spectrogram range. Or a Perseid meteor trail, moving = at 20 km/s (no, not really).
 
Best 73,
Markus (DF6NM)
 
*) Here in DL (and probably elsewhere), th= ere is a wedding rite that the newly married couple is&= nbsp;driving from church in a flower decorated car, followed by their = friends and relatives in a convoy of cars. They follow a white chalk line p= ainted on the street **), and usually keep honking their horns in an e= rratic manner. Listening to one or = several instantaneous Opera signals never fails to remind me of that sound = - so I privately dubbed it "honk mode".
 
**) Rumour has it that this white line is = primarily meant to guide the couple in safe distance around the houses of t= heir former lovers.
 
 
=
LF,

Just seen this on the G4WGT garbber, see attachment. Where does this
frequency spreading effect come from?

Experts: go!

73, Stefan
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