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The original message has been attached to this so you can view it (if it isn't spam) or label similar future email. If you have any questions, see the administrator of that system for details. Content preview: Hi Stefan, >>02:13 136 DK7FC de W1TAG Op32 5785 km -35 dB in Raymond, ME >>02:13 136 DK7FC de W1VD Op32 6096 km -31 dB in Burlington CT Congratulations!! [...] Content analysis details: (1.2 points, 5.0 required) pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- 0.2 STOX_REPLY_TYPE STOX_REPLY_TYPE 0.0 FREEMAIL_FROM Sender email is commonly abused enduser mail provider (rn3agc[at]mail.ru) 1.0 SPF_SOFTFAIL SPF: sender does not match SPF record (softfail) X-Scan-Signature: c40596c1cc3306f1877076595a921c57 Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="ISO-8859-1"; reply-type=original Subject: Re: LF: Op32 tonight on 137kHz Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable X-Spam-Checker-Version: SpamAssassin 2.63 (2004-01-11) on post.thorcom.com X-Spam-Level: X-Spam-Status: No, hits=0.0 required=5.0 tests=none autolearn=no version=2.63 X-SA-Exim-Scanned: Yes Sender: owner-rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org Precedence: bulk Reply-To: rsgb_lf_group@blacksheep.org X-Listname: rsgb_lf_group X-SA-Exim-Rcpt-To: rs_out_1@blacksheep.org X-SA-Exim-Scanned: No; SAEximRunCond expanded to false x-aol-global-disposition: G x-aol-sid: 3039ac1d60d65027621e3dba X-AOL-IP: 195.171.43.25 X-AOL-SPF: domain : blacksheep.org SPF : none Hi Stefan, >>02:13 136 DK7FC de W1TAG Op32 5785 km -35 dB in Raymond, ME >>02:13 136 DK7FC de W1VD Op32 6096 km -31 dB in Burlington CT Congratulations!! 73 Andrey Jay, John, Graham, LF, Late night for me but i didn't want to miss it: *02:13 136 DK7FC de W1TAG Op32 5785 km -35 dB in Raymond, ME* 02:13 136 DK7FC de TF3HZ Op32 2438 km -11 dB in Reykjavik 02:13 136 DK7FC de GW0EZY Op32 -5 dB in Welshpool IO82HO 02:13 136 DK7FC de RN3AGC Op32 2053 km -17 dB in Moscow *02:13 136 DK7FC de W1VD Op32 6096 km -31 dB in Burlington CT* 02:13 136 DK7FC de RW3ADB Op32 2044 km -34 dB in Moscow KO85ro 02:13 136 DK7FC de RX3DHR Op32 2124 km -25 dB in Zaraysk . 02:13 136 DK7FC de PA3ABK Op32 386 km -6 dB in Dordrecht 4:12 AM now, time for bed! :-) 73, Stefan/DK7FC Am 12.08.2012 00:50, schrieb Graham: > ''to need endless for one decode! 32 minutes is not endless'' ......? > > Of course , a pixel is one thing , the full call is the other :) > > what we can see is , not all the pixels show all the time , I > think is is predicted by Mr S law's of propagation ? , so as > to the call this is open to debate :( > > The OP mode is a data mode , running in single pass and can make > use of fast qsb/ripple > > Yes 32 is a long time , but we think is the lowest s/n single > pass data move available for use at the moment > another 5 or 6 db could be gained from fsk / psk modulation , > but then , that puts it outside the user group > > OP32 at -40 dB s/n offers the best possible range for the > 'average' 136 station , and the possibility of ''extended'' > range for the slightly larger installations :)) > > Hopefully the long range monitors are running Rx OP8 and OP32 > , I see Mike has just started sending OP32 at 100% cycle .. > > 73 -G.. > > > > DK7FC RD4HU 2200m OPERA 2907 kms 21:36:57 > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------- > From: "Stefan Sch=E4fer" > Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 9:47 PM > To: > Subject: Re: LF: Op32 tonight on 137kHz > >> G.., >> >> OP32 appear to need endless for one decode! 32 minutes is not endless >> and transmitting a call in QRSS-60 takes even longer but when i start >> transmitting in QRSS-60 it takes not longer than 1 minute until i see >> it on the YO/4X1RF grabber... >> >> BTW the OE3GHB grabber is back! http://members.aon.at/grabber/ >> >> Tonite there are OP8 and OP32 decodes. I will also TX in OP8 since >> this is faster... Confusing. >> >> 73, Stefan >> >> Am 11.08.2012 18:18, schrieb Graham: >>> Ok Mike >>> >>> TF3HZ is showing OP32 at the moment along with some in the >>> Moscow triangle , I think as long as your 3 Hz apart, then each >>> will decode , so that should not be a problem.. >>> >>> 73 -G.. >>> >>> >>> -------------------------------------------------- >>> From: "Mike Dennison" >>> Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 4:38 PM >>> To: >>> Subject: Re: LF: Op32 tonight on 137kHz >>> >>>> Yes, 136.000kHz USB dial setting. I usually also specify my actual >>>> transmit frequency in case another transmitting station wants to >>>> avoid that frequency, or perhaps someone wants to look for me with >>>> Argo or SpecLab. >>>> >>>> Mike, G3XDV >>>> >>>>> Mike >>>>> >>>>> Is that 136.000 KHz usb 'dial set' ? >>>>> >>>>> G.. >>>>> >>>>> -------------------------------------------------- >>>>> From: "Mike Dennison" >>>>> Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2012 3:51 PM >>>>> To: ; >>>>> Subject: LF: Op32 tonight on 137kHz >>>>> >>>>> > I will be transmitting an Opera32 beacon on 137.52kHz (136kHz dia= l) >>>>> > overnight from around 2200UTC tonight until 0800 tomorrow morning= . >>>>> > >>>>> > Mike, G3XDV >>>>> > >>>>> > >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>